The Son of Mary Was Not Crucified

Your quotes are often taken out of context and quite often don’t make sense from a logical standpoint. But I was right about casting pearls before swine so I will not attempt to give you anymore insight on how shortsighted you are.

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Mate, Jesus is easy to understand and it’s impossible to take him out of context, so don’t get suckered in by people who claim he’s difficult to understand..:slight_smile:
Paul said - “I am worried lest you be led astray from the simplicity of Christ” (2 Cor 11:3)

Yes, obedience to God’s Law and the DOING of God’s Will, as Christ teaches, are easy to understand.

It’s also pretty easy to understand that anyone who isn’t obeying God’s Law and DOING of God’s Will doesn’t know God nor Christ, and thus is headed for The Fire, regardless of what they call themselves.

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Also from ripcord

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You forgot to mention this one from Ripcord which is self explanatory…

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Why would you wish it upon anyone to not make it to heaven? Rather selfish thing to say if you ask me. What makes you better than them?

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Jesus told us to help nonchristians get to heaven and i’m happy to help, but he also told us to walk away if they won’t listen and not waste any more time on them, they had their chance..:)-
Jesus said:-"If any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them" (Mark 6:11)

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You love all your neighbors right? Including those who call themselves Muslims? Those who do not refer to themselves as Christians?

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Of course we christians love nonchristians, otherwise we wouldn’t be trying to help free them from satan’s grasp..:slight_smile:

“…the Lord’s servant must not quarrel, instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will” (2 Tim 2:23-26)

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Well I’m glad that you do, even though it did not appear so based on many of your answers. It actually appeared as if you hated Muslims.

How many so called Christian’s remain under satan’s grasp, saying it’s okay to break the Commandments? How many Christian’s support the genocide of the Palestinian people when many Palestinians are Christians? What about the crusades? I can go on and on.

I don’t see how converting anyone to Christianity, or Islam is going to solve anything. This has only created more division and suffering.

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1- Many so-called “christians” are firmly in satan’s grasp, but they can’t get under Jesus’s radar..:slight_smile:
Jesus said:-“Not all who call me “Lord,Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven. Then I’ll tell them plainly, I never knew you, get away from me” (Matt 7:21-23)

2- True Christians don’t do bad stuff, so it’d be a better world if everybody was a christian..:slight_smile:

Do “Jews” or “Muslims” call Christ “Lord”? NO.

Do Buddhist or Hindus or Taoists, etc. call Christ “Lord”? Again, NO.

The ONLY people on Earth that call Christ “Lord” and still do NOT do what Christ COMMANDS are “Christians”.

So why would anyone want to count themselves among the ENEMIES of Christ (Matt. 12:30) by joining yet another disobedient organized religion, particularly one that has been specifically condemned by Jesus?

The “bad stuff” that people do is “sin”, which is defined in Scripture as breaking God’s Law.

You routinely advocate the breaking of God’s Law (e.g. lusting after women, hating others, stuffing your body’s face with pig sandwiches, etc.), and teach others to do the same (enticing them to join your religious traditions and superstitions). Christ-Jesus said those who do such things are the lowest of the low in God’s Eyes (i.e. the “least” - Matt. 5:19).

Why? Do you have a death wish?

Revelation 12:10-17
12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and The Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their (human) lives unto the death (John 12:25).
12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the “earth” and of the “sea”! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (6,000 years).
12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast onto the Earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].
12:14 And to the woman (Israel) were given two wings of a great eagle (Ex. 19:4), that she might fly into the wilderness (Britain), into her place, where she is nourished for a Time, and Times (2), and half a Time (1260 “days”) (Dan. 12:7), from the face of the serpent.
12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth “water” (ch. 17:15) as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away (destroyed) by the flood.
12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which KEEP the Commandments of God, and have the Testimony of Christ Jesus (the Bible).

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1- i’ve never lusted after women and have always treated them with the respect they deserve, and I’m a normal hetero male thank God, not a homosexual..:slight_smile:

2- I certainly don’t hate anybody (“A true man hates nobody”- Napoleon Bonaparte) and if I did i’d simply let nonchristians go to hell without trying to help them avoid it..:slight_smile:
“…The Lord’s servant must not quarrel, instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will” (2 Tim 2:23-26)

3- in context, livestock disease was probably temporarily going around for a while in Old T times, so God had to warn the people to lay off pork for a while, but later gave the all clear- Paul says in 1 Tim ch 4 1-5-
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils…and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer"

4- Sure there are nonsensical ‘christian’ traditions promoted by the halfwits of organised religions and cults, but we’re free to shun them if we like, for example i belong to no religion and don’t even go to church, i’m happy simply to be Jesus’s chum..:slight_smile:

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I don’t give a rats behind what those nonchristian cults say..:slight_smile:
Jesus said to his disciples- “You call me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am” (John 13:13)

Yes, you’ve made it crystal clear on a number of occasions that you don’t give a rat’s behind about others, as if that’s somehow loving your neighbour as Christ COMMANDS.

And yes, Christ is a Teacher to His Disciples. It should be self-evident though that those who don’t listen to and obey Him clearly are not His Disciples nor His Students, regardless of what they call themselves.

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Do all “Christians” lie as easily as you do?

Romeo Fabulini A.K.A @Ripcord

No doubt your definition of lusting and respect will differ from everybody else…

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Scout mate, no offence but don’t you like women?..:slight_smile:

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You’re not getting away with whataboutery.

Do all “Christians” lie as easily as you do?

You claimed to never have “lusted after women”

That was proven to be a lie, and a barefaced one at that,

You claimed to “treat women with the respect they deserve”

That also was proven to be a barefaced lie.

So, i’ll ask a third time.

Do all "Christians lie as easily as you do?

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Nonsense.

The filthy pig that God warned us was UNCLEAN did not magically become “clean” because some “halfwit” (your words) decided its parasite-ridden swine-flesh was just too tasty to pass up.

Philippians 3:18-19
3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, [that they are] the enemies of the cross of Christ (the cross of “Self”-sacrifice):
3:19 Whose end [is] destruction, whose god [is their] BELLY, and [whose] glory [is] in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

So some obvious misinterpretation of one of the letters attributed to Paul allegedly contradicts and supersedes what our changeless God (Ps. 55:19) and His changeless Christ (Heb. 13:8) have said about this subject?

What does the Roman Catholic church have its victims/parishioners do on “Ash Wednesday” (following fat Tuesday) every Friday during “Lent”?

Abstain from meat.

It’s such a popular practice that restaurants change their menus for several weeks each year to accommodate them.

Excerpt below from:

Every Lent, Catholics make their mark in the modern world by impacting restaurant menus across the country. Catholics en masse abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday and Fridays during Lent.

According to Pew Research Center, 1-in-5 adults in the U.S. population are Catholic. In the traditional practice of sacrifice and self-denial during this penitential season, Catholics follow Lent more than any other Christian denomination, and even those generally not practicing will observe it in some way: Most Catholics (62%) do not eat meat on Fridays during Lent.


Certainly not the “all clear” to start breaking The Law and consuming a filthy animal that was specifically designed to be part of the planetary waste management system.

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In my younger days I was a long-distance cycle-camper (I once pedalled from Leicester (England) to Paris and back, a round trip of 600 miles over 8 days..) :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
and did many other trips, and quickly learnt that we have to give the body exactly what fuel (food and drink) it’s craving or else we’ll grind to a halt, and of course meat products like pork pies, bacon, sausages etc were an absolute must.
My point is that God created our bodies and knows exactly what makes the body run properly like a well-oiled machine, otherwise he’d have given us a revulsion against pork..:slight_smile:
PS- Jews avoid it and are prone to Crohn’s Disease (inflammation of the gut) serves 'em right..:slight_smile:
I like this verse-
God himself said “Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you, even as the green herb I have given you all things” (Genesis 9:3)

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