I don’t give two hoots what the catholic church says or does, it’s rotten to the core and satan has suckered them (and vegans) into shunning meat in order to make them more weak-minded and mushbrained than they already are-
Paul said- “For one believeth that he may eat all things, another who is weak, eateth herbs” (Romans 14:2)
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God gave us His Perfect Law to protect us from evil and to set and keep us free from oppression, injustice and our own selfish stupidity.
The Perfect Healthy Diet found in God’s Perfect Law defines what is clean and what is unclean for our individual and collective benefit.
The reason there are UNCLEAN animals (e.g. pigs, rabbits, water fowl, everything in the sea except for fish with fins and scales, predatory birds and scavengers, etc. - SEE: Lev. 11 and Deut. 14) is because they were specifically designed to be part of the planetary waste management system NOT to be eaten.
When stupid and selfish humans choose to listen to and obey their master Satan, and feed themselves UNCLEAN animals, they not only make their own bodies unhealthy, but they help to pollute and destroy the natural environment everyone could otherwise enjoy.
That’s why the hospitals today are filled to overflowing with humans needlessly suffering from heart attacks, strokes, cancers and all of the rest of “the diseases of Egypt”.
There isn’t one single verse in Scripture where God changed His Mind about His Law, exactly as Christ told us (Matt. 5:17-20; Sura 61:6-7).
So any SOUL that is still breaking God’s Law is choosing to believe Satan and the human/flesh instead of God and His Word/Christ, and is going to burn for it, regardless of whatever they may mistakenly believe to the contrary.
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Christ also taught His Disciples that they must “eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood” to be able to truly Live.
John 6:51-56
6:51 I am the Living Bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall Live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?
6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, ye have no Life in you.
6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal Life; and I will raise him up at the Last Day.
6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
So what did Jesus mean by this? A stupid and selfish human animal has no idea, as evidenced by the “Jews” reaction to what Jesus said.
Jesus obviously wasn’t talking about cannibalism nor about physically drinking the blood of another. That’s why the flesh was SYMBOLIZED by bread and the blood was SYMBOLIZED by wine at the last supper, to teach DAILY self-crucifixion.
Daily self-crucifixion is necessary to be able to DO God’s Will instead of one’s own selfish will (the will of the flesh/human). “I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of Him Who sent me” (John 6:38).
To DIGEST the flesh of Jesus is to put into practice Christ’s Teachings of “self” sacrifice for everyone’s benefit.
To DRINK the blood of Jesus is to drink from the “cup” of sorrow and “self” sacrifice, again for everyone’s benefit.
These Teachings of Christ CONFIRM both The Law and the Gospel, and serve as further, irrefutable proof of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, as taught throughout Scripture.
Anyone who doesn’t digest these teachings of Christ by putting them into practice is going to be cast into the Lake of Fire. There will be absolutely NO exceptions.
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Which gives to ponder and is quite scary in itself considering feeling self-righteous and everything, and about what truly is gonna be our condition and state of affairs after we die…
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For what it’s worth, death is not the end of life except the end of this envelope for the soul that we call the human body.
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God himself said “Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you, even as the green herb I have given you all things” (Genesis 9:3)
so are you saying he later changed his mind and told us to aviod pork?
avoid you mean.
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Not me mate, i’m not perfect and I know it, unlike some “christians” who think they’ve already got a free pass through the pearlies.
All we can do is share Paul’s healthy mindset and give it our best shot and hope we make the grade..
Paul said- “I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time” (1 Cor 4:3)
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The only thing that true christians know for sure is that we’ve at least got a chance of getting through the pearlies, but nonchristians and atheists have got ZERO chance and the bouncer at the gates will tell them-
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Who’s guaranteed to die as a Muslim though?
A Muslim is a submitter to the truth of the belief of the idea that The Almighty Exists and that s/he needs to accomplish His Will, for that’s what the soul ( which is what belongs to His Heavenly Majesty) demands wholeheartedly.
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And which Soul was inside of Jesus when he was crucified? The Messiah/Christ, i.e. The Messenger of God and His Eldest/First-created Son.
You can’t kill an immortal spiritual-Being (Soul). Only God can do that (Matt. 10:28).
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The Glorious Qur’an Mentions that The Almighty Makes no distinction between any of His Messengers.
Chapter 2, Verse 136
Say, [O believers], “We have believed in Allāh and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants [al-Asbāṭ] and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”
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Yes, it claims Jesus wasn’t the son of God but just another prophet.
Is the Koran more ‘glorious’ than the Bible?
Because it was the immortal Christ that was living inside of Jesus who IS the son of God. Jesus said he was the son of man as described in the Bible. How can the son of man be the son of God? God is NOT a man who walks around, and brushes his teeth in a restroom.
The Quran does not say that Christ the Messiah is not the son of God. How can Christ the Messiah as described in the Quran not be the son of God?
Why continue with this pissing contest when this has been thoroughly explained to you several times?
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I understand what you’re saying.
I believe human disputes between the Old Testamament, New Testament, and Quran are the result of mistranslation between the languages and all the different versions in each language. Plus all the thousands of doctrines which have spawned from them. It is impossible for all those doctrines to be correct, and probable that they’re all incorrect in one form or another.
So far this is my conclusion after 20 years of careful study, comparing one translation to another, using the two languages that I’m fluent in, reading the King of Kings Bible etc.. and reading what AFreeman has been saying about it. I don’t just take their word for it, I analyze and confirm between different versions in scripture, with each argument as it is presented.
Anyway, after comparing other verses throughout scripture I believe this to be the correct translation directly from the King of King’s Bible:
4:171. O People of The Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the Truth. Jesus the (human) son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of God; and His Word (John 1:14), which He bestowed on Mary’s (human) son; was a spirit-Being (Christ) proceeding from Him (making the human+Being called Jesus+Christ): so believe God and His Apostles. Say NOT “Trinity”: DESIST: it will be better for you: for “I AM” is one God. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a human son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on Earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.
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So do muslims believe Jesus WAS the Son of God and that he WAS crucified?
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To show everyone reading this thread how easily it is for Satan/Iblis to dupe people in any of his organized religions, all those calling themselves “Muslims”, please consider the following:
IF God didn’t intend for His First-Created SPIRITUAL Son – HIS Anointed ONE (The Messiah/Christ/Mahdi) to stand out from everyone else, then why did God:
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prophesy and announce the virgin birth of Jesus, as the Quran confirms (Sura 19:19-20);
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inform Mary she was to be blessed with the gift of a HOLY Son (Sura 19:19-20);
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unequivocally tell everyone in the Quran that those who follow Jesus Example are SUPERIOR to those who reject faith (Sura 3:55); and
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let everyone know that He would be sending Christ AGAIN before Judgment Day (Sura 43:61) to remove ANY doubt among true believers as to Christ’s CENTRAL importance in our salvation?
All these things God said and did to SET Christ apart and above from everyone else, which is exactly the same reason God allowed Jesus to be crucified before raising Jesus Himself 3 days and 3 nights later, as Jesus himself said in the Quran (Sura 19:33-34).
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And further, to similarly show how Satan/Iblis can dupe “Christians” just as easily with their made-up doctrines and traditions (the teachings of “the blind leading the blind”) just like their “Muslim” counterparts…
Christ Himself – to whom God gave ALL power (Matt. 28:18) and committed ALL judgment (John 5:22) – said through the mouth of Jesus that he was sent NOT to do his own will, but the will of His Father, Who sent him (John 6:38).
How is that any different than what it repeatedly states throughout the Quran about no distinction being made among God’s Prophets?
And what is the Quran actually saying, in plain English?
THAT IT’S NOT THE MESSENGER THAT’S IMPORTANT BUT THE MESSAGE, WHICH COMES FROM GOD.
Is that not a true statement? Of course it is.
Anyone “Christian” who calls the Quran “satanic” is doing that for their master satan, so that he can continue dividing you and feeding your hatred for one another instead of getting rid of all man-made traditions and religious superstitions and UNITING to DO God’s Will.
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