The Son of Mary Was Not Crucified

Religions & Spirituality
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That is the deceitful story that they teach in “Islam”, but that isn’t what it actually says in the Koran/Quran, at least not in the original version (written in Aramaic – specifically Syro-Aramaic or “Syriac” – a language that Jesus spoke).

The terminology that was used was to refer to Jesus as “the Son of Mary”, to illustrate the fact that Jesus was human, and therefore mortal. So when they couple that with the Messiah/Christ, their terminology “The Messiah/Christ the son of Mary” is akin to saying “Christ-Jesus” or “Jesus+Christ”.

What seems to be lost in all of that is that The Messiah/Christ is the Son of God and Jesus was the son of the virgin Mary, so the crucifixion didn’t kill Christ (which was what the Sanhedrin boasted they had done), it only murdered Jesus, whom God raised 3 days and 3 nights later.

And even if someone wanted to argue all of that (in vain), there is nothing in the Koran/Quran that denies the resurrection. In fact, in the very next verse, Sura 4:158 CONFIRMS the resurrection of Jesus.

So how could Jesus be resurrected unless he actually died? This obvious dilemma in the false teachings of “Islam” simply cannot survive even minimal scrutiny, as we have the direct testimony of Jesus’ death directly from Jesus (Sura 19:33-34) and further confirmation in Sura 6:122, on top of over three dozen verses in the Koran/Quran that instruct its readers to read the Bible prophecies and testimonies in The Law and the Gospel accounts.

Nobody questions the Bible teaches that the crucifixion and resurrection took place, and – when properly transcribed, properly translated, and properly understood, the Koran/Quran doesn’t question that teaching either.

Only the satanic imams do that, and then teach their lies to the adherents of the sects of “Islam”, proving that they are “the blind leading the blind” just as Christ warned everyone.

ALL sects are repeatedly condemned in the Koran/Quran, and that includes the Sunni sect, the Shia sect, the Wahhabi sect, the Salafi sect, the Takfiri sect, and any other sect.

Sura 6:159. As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou must have nothing whatsoever to do with it, even in the least: their affair is with “I AM”: in the end He will tell them the truth of all that they did.

If you’re not in a sect, then you can’t be misled by the sectarian leaders, aka priests, pastors, rabbis, imams, etc.

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Because I do not feel in my heart any real connection with you, if you’re even a person to begin with.

Proof: I read only your first self-sentencing question.

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The Qur’an itself says that he was neither killed nor crucified.

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That does not seem to befit a Prophet of The Almighty at all.

No, he was raised unto The Almighty and secured in a location unknown to us, awaiting his descent in the end times, which we are all living in most probably.

And he is going to pray behind Imam Mahdi when he comes down, laying his hands upon the shoulders of two angels.

Imam Mahdi himself will want Jesus to lead the congregational prayer of that day but Jesus will respectfully decline.

Jesus will get married and have children thereafter until he kills the antichrist and until he finally transfers to the above of the already-dead, the world of the grave or the tomb, or whichever other term suits your mind to acknowledge it as (i.e. the world all the dead souls go to after they have left this physical envelope called the human body).

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Why are you even assuming that I even assumed anything to begin with?

And what’s with the long replies?

Don’t you ever change, or improve rather, should I say?

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Jeremiah 17:9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Yes, I’m a real, live human+Being, who’s striving to do God’s Will.

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Glad to read it.

Sad that I cannot heart it though, your response I mean.

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The truth that has been personally posted ought to be enough for any true believer.

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You seem to me a hater… It takes one to know one, right?

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“Seem” being the operative word.

It is with great love that time is spent here on this forum and elsewhere sharing the truth with others while being viciously attacked for doing so.

The fact that I’m not reciprocating the personal attacks should again be enough proof for any true believer.

Most don’t want to hear the truth that we are fast approaching Judgment Day, and that MOST of mankind is going into The Fire, as we’ve been repeatedly warned.

That honest, truthful message is usually looked upon as hateful, even though warning everyone – while there’s time to change their evil ways – is the most loving thing someone can do. It would be much easier to say nothing, and just let everyone burn. But that isn’t love; it’s cowardice (and hateful).

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To you be your religion and to me mine.

In other words, to you be yours and to me be mine.

In further words, to you be your way of living and to me be mine…

Thanks for your replies anyway.

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There is only ONE religion: TRUTH (Sura 9:29; Sura 9:33).

There is only ONE Way home (to heaven): TRUTH (John 14:6).

There is only ONE Example to follow: TRUTH (Sura 3:55)

There is ONE inescapable TRUTH: on the Last Day, everyone who is still following the broad path of organized religion (Matt. 7:13-14), which calls God and His Messenger liars (choosing to believe in lies rather than the Truth), will be fuel for The Fire (Luke 19:27; Sura 2:24).

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Sura 61

Surah 61. The Ranks, Battle Array

61:1. Whatever is in the heavens and on Earth, let it declare the Praises and Glory of “I AM”: for He is the Almighty, the Wise.
61:2. O ye who believe! Why SAY ye that which ye DO not (Matt. 5:37; James 5:12)?
61:3. Grievously ODIOUS it is in the sight of “I AM” that ye SAY but that ye DO NOT DO [what He has told you to do in His Scriptures and privately in your mind\ (Matt.7:21-27; Sura 9:107-111)].
61:4. Truly “I AM” loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.
61:5. And remember, Moses said to his people: “O my people! Why do ye vex and insult me, though ye know that I am the Apostle of “I AM” (sent) to you?” Then when they went wrong, “I AM” let their hearts go wrong. For “I AM” guides not those who are rebellious transgressors.
61:6. And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the Apostle of “I AM” (sent) to you, CONFIRMING The Law (which came) before me (the Torah), and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be the Comforter (John 16:7-15).” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!”
61:7. Who doth greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against “I AM”, even as he is being invited to do His Will? And “I AM” guides not those who do wrong (Satan does).
61:8. Their intention is to extinguish “I AM”'s Light (by blowing) with their mouths: but “I AM” will complete (the Revelation of) His Light (Malachi 4:2), even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
61:9. It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, that he may proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).
61:10. O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?-
61:11. That ye believe in “I AM” and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of “I AM”, with your property and your persons: that will be best for you, if ye but knew!
61:12. He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement.
61:13. And another (favour will He bestow), which ye do love,- help from “I AM” and a speedy victory. So give the Good News to the Believers.
61:14. O ye who believe! Be ye helpers of “I AM”. As said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, “Who will be my helpers to (the WORK of) “I AM”.” Said the disciples, “We are “I AM”'s helpers!” Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed (- the House of Israel), and a portion disbelieved (- the House of Jewdah/Judah): but We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed (Revelation 11:5).

JAH

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I don’t give two hoots what the Koran says..
It was created by satan purely to say Jesus was not the Son of God, and the rest of it is just baloney, so anybody who quotes from it is firmly in satan’s grasp for promoting it..:slight_smile:

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And apparently you feel the same about the Bible, given you don’t follow it either.

The Koran wasn’t created by Satan, God sent it, according to Christ. So what you’ve said is a lie.

And the one verse to which you refer to itself doesn’t actually say that Jesus wasn’t crucified IF it is transcribed, translated and understood correctly, from the original text. So that too is a lie.

Further, as has been shown multiple times, there are other verses in the Koran which tell us that Jesus DID die, including one that quotes him (Jesus) saying so (Sura 19:33-34).

Further yet, Christ is the Son of God, and Jesus was the son of Mary, IF one believes what Christ told us THROUGH the mouth of Jesus, so what it says in the Koran/Quran and what it says about that in the Old Covenant/Testament and the New Covenant/Testament are all in perfect agreement.

By your own admission you’ve never read the Koran/Quran in its entirety, and thus are arguing from a point of ignorance, which itself is obviously satanic.

And finally, and most importantly, the attitude that you routinely display towards those who have been duped by other organized religions (“they’re all going up the spout” or words to that effect), when you yourself have obviously been duped – as evidenced by your refusal to keep The Law that Christ told us would NEVER go away – is completely anti-Christ.

Did you not ever read that we are COMMANDED to LOVE our neighbour?

Mark 12:29-31
12:29 And Jesus answered him, The First of all the Commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength and serve Him ONLY: this [is] the first COMMANDment.
12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other COMMANDment greater than these.

This is straight out of the mouth of Jesus, whom you claim to love and follow.

Another lie.

We are to be DOING God’s Will and KEEPING His Law. Anyone still stuffing their face with sausage sandwiches, posting graven images of an actor portraying the BODY that Christ used 2000 years ago (which is against The Law), arguing in ignorance about things they know nothing about, bearing false witness/telling lies (which is also against The Law), and showing such obvious disdain for their neighbours (everyone here on Earth is our neighbour - those that live next door and across the planet and everyone in between), to the extent that they cannot recognize Christ in thought, word and deed, is so far into Satan’s grip they have no hope.

We are to be ONE Brotherhood of Believers, ALL following Christ’s Example (John 14:6; 1 Cor. 11:3; Sura 3:55). Why not learn to promote that TRUTH instead of your satanic opinions about things you know nothing about?

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Jesus the son of man, Christ’s human mortal body. Christ the son of God, Jesus’s immortal spirit/soul.

Jesus the human body of Christ was not the son of God, Jesus was the son of man. Christ the spirit/soul of Jesus is the son of God.

There are plenty of references in scripture including the Quran as to the crucial difference between the mortal body and the immortal soul.

Why do you contunue to refuse to understand? This is crucial.

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The satanic Koran says Jesus was not the Son of God,you can believe that twaddle if you like but include me out..:slight_smile:

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All those who refuse to be born again, as their true spiritual self (knowing they are NOT the human they temporarily incarnate) have already been counted out.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-“Being” (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-“Being”).
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh/human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-“Being”) - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

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When i look back over the years of my life, I think “I cannot believe I said or did this or that, what a stupid idiot I was”
In fact I was a different person back then, but now i’m not that stupid idiot any more, it’s as if i’ve been born again…:wink:
But many people can’t or won’t realize they were stupid, and carry on being unrepentant for the rest of their lives.
The guy on the cross next to Jesus realized he’d led a stupid life and was full of remorse, so Jesus said to him “Today you’ll be with me in paradise”, but the guy on the other cross apparently showed no remorse.

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Do you believe Jesus had a soul or spirit?

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