I back up my posts with actual Bible quotes, so if anybody disagrees with the verses they can argue it out with God and Jesus when they meet them.. 
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Well I respectfully agree, less quotes, people need to take just a break from these massive quoting so much because Iâve seen here and other threads, those being used to twist, re-interpret, and imply it mean something far fetch and just go with an actual dialogue would be very much appreciated, respectfully
I understand that the internet causes Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) which makes it really difficult for us to read the Bible. I try not to let that keep me from learning from the most sold and read book throughout all time. At the very least, we need to know what the Bible says in order to be able to discern what the wicked rulers of this world are really doing. We must know our enemy and our enemy reads the Bible. If anyone has trouble focusing on reading the Bible then listening to it is absolutely fascinating on the way to and from work or during lunch and whenever you have the chance:
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Oh I love reading the Bible, itâs just that people using scriptures to make false claims and twist the word of God is not acceptable nor a valid way of discussion. That individual doing that needs to stop.
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Anyone who reads the Bible will see the truth in what is shared FROM the Bible.
There is no question as to the crucifixion of Jesus, the Son of Mary, just as there is no question about the resurrection of Jesus three days and three nights later, on the Sabbath day.
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Ok, Duh.
Exactly.
I agree 100% my dear lovely brother.
But Mary did not gave birth to an Extraterrestrial. Ok Brother Peace Be upon Choo
@Abd I verily wholeheartedly disagree respectfully! My Lords Holy Living word is alive. God breathed.
May Jesus breath unto your soul and spirit as to rightly divide the word of TRUTH.
The Qoran has repeated much about ours Lords word AND added something that are truly troubling.
in the end LOVE WINS. JESUS IS THE MESSIAH 
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Blasphemous rhetoric spew a thousands times does not make it true. There is a shift happening now as we speak. Although the threat of death is eminent many Moslems are accepting Jesus as there Lord. I have a friend from La who is petrified he will be killed for accepting Jesus into His Heart. Godspeed Alex!!! Right choice sll day.
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The problem for both âChristiansâ and âMuslimsâ is they both read the Scripture with their human eyes, which see everything upside down and backwards. A human cannot see nor hear anything spiritual, because they lack the spiritual eyes and ears to do so.
This is why Christ, through the mouth of Jesus, plainly stated we MUST be born again as our true, spiritual self to be able to see the Kingdom of God (John 3:3-7).
Jesus was the mortal, human son born of the virgin human body of Mary, descended from king David (Matt. 1:1-17). Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea (Luke 2:14-20), which is obviously located here on Earth, and thus was born, lived, was crucified and died in this world, and was resurrected by God three days and three nights later. on the Sabbath Day (the 7th day of the week).
Christ IS the immortal, eldest/firstborn Son of God (Col. 1:12-16) whom God sent to incarnate Jesus (John 1:14). Christ, very obviously is NOT OF THIS WORLD as God made the world through Christ and for Christ (John 1:1-3; Heb. 1:1-4).
When Christ incarnated Jesus 2000 years ago, They became the human+Being that known as Jesus+Christ.
Both Jesus and Christ are not just names but also TITLES. âJesusâ means âSaviourâ (or specifically âYHWH Savesâ), and âChristâ means âThe Anointed Oneâ (or specifically âthe One Whom God anointed to be our Kingâ).
That is why all renderings of Christ after the crucifixion and resurrection are âChrist, the Saviourâ.
Until these FACTS are clearly understood, âChristiansâ and âMuslimsâ will continue to argue their man-made religious doctrines and traditions, all of which Christ repeatedly CONDEMNED, until they find themselves in The Fire, as weâve been repeatedly warned.
As a Christian I never argue with other faiths because theyâre all going up the spout on judgement day so why should I care?..
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Mark 12:29-31
12:29 And Jesus answered him, The First of all the Commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength and serve Him ONLY: this [is] the first COMMANDment.
12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself (Lev. 19:18). There is none other COMMANDment greater than these.
Is your DNA Reptilian or part of consciousness or WTF?
Thereâs nothing really to prove because itâs a question of belief where ours differ.
For what itâs worth, the truth of it all will be revealed in due time, to say the leastâŠ
Itâs really a question of mistaken beliefs though, because neither the Koran/Quran nor the Bible actually teach that Jesus wasnât crucified.
The Koran/Quran repeatedly instructs its readers to read, study and digest (put into practice) The Law (Old Covenant/Testament) and the Gospel (New Covenant/Testament) that the Koran/Quran plainly (and repeatedly) tells us it was sent to CONFIRM (NOT to contradict).
So why donât âMuslimsâ do what it says instead of ignoring what the Koran/Quran actually says, to their own detriment?
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They did not kill him nor did they crucify him.
This sentence above is a direct quote from the Qurâan.
So what part donât you understand therein?
Why do you assume that itâs someone elseâs misunderstanding and not your own, being disputed in vain?
The ruling body of the âJewsâ thought that by crucifying Jesus they could kill the Son of God, which is ridiculous. Thatâs EXACTLY what is being pointed out in Sura 4:157, which no âMuslimâ seems to have ever understood.
To come to the erroneous conclusion that they didnât crucify Jesus requires one to ignore dozens of other verses in the Koran/Quran, and to violate the fundamental requirement laid out that Scripture MUST be consistent with itself.
Sura 39:23. âI AMâ has revealed (from time to time) the most beautiful Message in the form of a Book, CONSISTENT WITH ITSELF, (yet) repeating (its teaching in various aspects): the skins of those who fear their Lord tremble thereat; then their skins and their hearts do soften to the celebration of âI AMâ's praises (Prov. 1:7; 9:10). Such is the Guidance from âI AMâ: He guides therewith whom He pleases, but such as âI AMâ leaves to stray, can have none to guide.
Where is ANOTHER verse in the Koran/Quran confirming the mistaken belief that Sura 4:157 allegedly is claiming they didnât crucify Jesus?
NOWHERE.
Instead, Jesus is literally quoted in the Koran/Quran prophesying his own death and resurrection, for which the spiritually blind imams have no rational explanation.
Sura 19:33-34
19:33. So Peace is on me (Jesus) the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!"
19:34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
Why would anyone choose to believe their own mistaken beliefs and assumptions INSTEAD of the words of a PROPHET from God?
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And anotherâŠ
Sura 6:122. Can he who was dead (Jesus â Matt. 27:50-54, Mark 15:37-39, Luke 23:44-47, John 19:30-42) to whom We gave life (Matt. 28:5-10, Mark 16:6-8, Luke 24, John 20), and a Light (John 3:19-21, John 8:3) with which he (Christ) walks amongst men, be like him who is in the depths of darkness (Lucifer), from which he can never come out? Thus to those without Faith their own deeds seem pleasing (Deut. 4:28, Matt. 6:5).
And of course there are dozens of verses/ayats in the Koran/Quran which instruct its readers to read both The Law (Old Covenant/Testament) and the Gospel (New Covenant/Testament) which contain hundreds of prophecies about the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus, and record the actual crucifixion and resurrection, including numerous eye-witness accounts.
How could any rationally-minded individual totally ignore ALL of Godâs Prophets, a virgin-birth God specifically arranged to set Jesus apart from everyone else, the fact the Koran/Quran tells us at least a dozen times it was sent to CONFIRM the Bible, and NOT to contradict it, all to arrive at a ridiculous interpretation of ONE verse that obviously isnât consistent with ANYTHING else in the Bible or the Quran?
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Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!â
There it is along with the rest of scripture, even the Mustafa Khattab English translation says this.
How can this be explained other than the scriptures pointing towards the human body of Jesus,(not his eternal soul), being crucified and raised back to life, and the eternal soul of Jesus not being killed or crucified?
When you connect all the dots it does appear that the Quran and the Bible are in full agreement with this dispute.
Peace be upon him.
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Yep. Itâs all there in plain sight for those with (spiritual) eyes to see.
Whatâs sad is Satan gets the imams to teach âMuslimsâ the obvious LIE that the Bible has allegedly been corrupted, even though it plainly states in the Koran/Quran that could NEVER happen.
Sura 15:9-10
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles before thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of old:
Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give The Book (The Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.
How can any âMuslimâ possibly explain away the Gospel accounts and the hundreds of Old Testament prophecies that very clearly state Jesus was crucified, died and was buried, before God raised him from the dead 3 days and 3 nights later?
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Islam has MANY Gnostic elements, this is one of them. Because this actually comes from the Basilideans and Saint Ireneaus already exposed and opposed it in his 5 volume work âAgainst Heresiesâ aka âOn the Detection and Overthrow of the So-Called Gnosisâ.
They taught that Jesus did not die on the cross and Simon of Cyrene was transformed to look like Jesus. So Simon was crucified instead of Jesus and the real Jesus stood nearby, laughing at those who thought they were executing him.
And itâs not limited to the Basilideans. Gnostic sects teach mitigating dualism or even absolute idealism. So by that logic the real Jesus is spiritual and his body (as with all matter) would be an illusion. Originally this was applied to Jesus to emphasize his divinity. Which is funny cause Islam ultimately evolved to reject his divinity, so they donât need this argumentation anymore, but they still kept it to this day.
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