lol @AFreeman
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Newsflash!
…I have a new theory to put forwarD…
The No-Earth theory
There is no Earth
There is only where you are right now
For example, right now where I am at, is in a living room.
Who’s to say I won’t drop dead at any second now and then be buried under the soil?
But wait, if there’s no Earth, there’s also no soil, right? 
For more information, please contact the spoon boy in The Matrix. 
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Thanks for your reply, Chaldean. You bring over your views without anger.
‘‘He does not accept the official narrative in a world ruled by Satan. Is it so difficult to understand?’’
I guess Satans tactic to drive me away from God by his invention of a globe isn’t really working out. I don’t see any incongruence in God creating a universe with moving constellations, I think God can create the universe every way He wants. I don’t need a flat earth to have my faith. I am no saint either, there are many other things I’ve been trapped in like drugs and alcohol abuse. We are all fragile human beings, and each of us have our own weaknesses to deal with.
I don’t endorse the message of AFreeman regarding his judgment on flat earthers. I’m very cautious with judging someone, we’re not called to judge, not yet. I stand by the words of Jesus: ‘‘ Father, forgive them for they know not what they do’’. I think we are a bit to harsh on each other sometimes, we can learn a lot from the love of God.
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Everyone carries their cross.
Mt, 16, 24-28
“Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone wants to come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.”
Let God’s love flow to you and free you from addiction. 
Good people today will ask God to free you from the clutches of addiction.
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The Judgment is Father’s (God’s) NOT mine. Sharing Father’s Commandment and Judgement about lying, for everyone’s benefit, isn’t judgmental; it’s the lawful and loving thing to do.
Lying to others very obviously isn’t loving at all, and actually hurts everyone (including the one doing the lying) which is why it’s against Father’s Law to lie.
A simple example of this is the following image, which is not only found NOWHERE in the Bible, but likewise finds no support for it in the Scriptures that it cites.
So when someone makes or takes a man-made image like this from their imagination (Gen. 6:5), and claims the Bible teaches us there’s an ice-ring around the Earth, when the Bible doesn’t ever say that nor imply that, why are they doing that? To help others or to deceive them (wittingly or otherwise)?
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I agree with you, it’s clear as day in scripture, lying shouldn’t be done. But it’s difficult for us, at least for me, to be sure if someone is lying. One can be deceived without intentionally lying. I have the feeling Chaldean doesn’t have the intention of lying and misleading, although lots of people in the flat earth community are lying and misleading. I can understand the temptation of the flat earth idea, for many people it feels like a family. Most of them display lots of anger, which is very bad for them.
The AI generated picture is really weird as proof, indeed. I can’t wrap my head around it that they blame CGI pictures of the globe and then use drawings themselves or even AI generated pictures.
If you ask a flat earther why the government would lie about the shape of the earth they will answer: to keep you away from God, or something like that. Then they go on with their arguments, that in the ancient world everybody was a flat earther, it was the common model back then. Then why was there so much cruelty and ungodliness in the ancient world? So even if the flat earth model is the mainstream model, it still doesn’t make the world cling to God it seems.
I’ve read many posts of you with enjoyment. Keep on the good work.
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I need to correct my thought. 
I didn’t mean that the Bible confirms the existence of the ice circle, because it doesn’t. I should have written it more clearly, my mistake.
Let me emphasize once again that I did not intend for anyone to read this as confirming that there is something about an ice circle in the Bible.
This is not proof, but identification with the vision presented in this 19th century sketch.
The AI-generated image is only an addition confirming the 19th century vision as a curiosity, not as irrefutable evidence.
I also really appreciate the content he posts @AFreeman which I always read with interest.
None of our arguments or different views on a given topic will spoil our good relationship (I think we have a good relationship).
I try to turn every misunderstanding into a joke instead of getting angry.
@AFreeman has this feature of infallibility that everything he writes is the only revealed truth and there is no polemic with it, period.
He looks down on everyone.
At least that’s my impression. Perhaps this is a false impression.
More humility, more humility.
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Thank-you. It’s a false impression. What has been shared with me from above is simply being passed on, knowing what is at stake and that time is rapidly running out for all of us.
We all need much more humility.
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303,609 views Apr 18, 2023
Emirati astronaut Sultan al-Neyadi shares footage of Saudi Arabia’s Medina, Mecca and Jeddah from aboard the International Space Station (ISS).
Read more:
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/sa…
…May this shed some lighT…
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the sun does not rise/set it moves towards(daylight)or away(night),both sun/moon is closer smaller than We’re told
Peoples keep applying tptb numbers/spelling etc..to their testing/evaluations instead of taking into consideration that they can be lies reenforcing the spell/illusion and We get stuck in the system thinking programming
We were all there at one time,the programming is hard to get around cause it’s been used for how many generations now,it’s all that is Known
realizing Ya have to scrub to a fresh state is hard to do as the system is always running and We are in a constant fight against slipping back into the programming
tptb did their testing on flat models because it is or none of the tests done would have accurate results
many pilots have told Us they do not adjust for curvature and they are flying on a flat horizon
ImHo i Believe the Truth is somewhere between both models
again this is just another designed divide tptb give Us and We allow the divide to work everytime
tptb have had how long to map Us and have told Us that Peoples are hackable animals
the bible
I’ve Seen many ask as proof of a flat/round model and many use to defend the flat/round earth theory
ImHo the book has some of the Truth,many lies and many omitted Truths
religions were the first tool of mass control,that’s why every religion has a Good and evil theme
all are different to keep Us in a constant state of division
all have been written/translated,produced/distributed by tptb and they have changed it many times already hense the different versions available
We already Know tptb use everything they give Us as tools of manipulation against Us,religions are no different that’s why We need Our discernment
We’re meant to live as Good of a life as We can while We’re here,promote and focus on the positives Love_empathy/compassion etc..more than any of the negative
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Anyone here actually down to use science to investigate this rather than emotion?
Once again, the proof or disproof on this is a solved problem from a scientific standpoint. It’s not a cheap problem - but again, if the Earth is flat, all the oceans around Argentina and South Africa are predicted to be TEN TIMES their currently understood size or more, due to the supposed radius of the “circular” Earth being gigantic at those latitudes under flat Earth theory.
Lots of fishing! Unprecedented economic opportunity.
But someone would have to take a boat down there and actually film it and do it, with credible scientific equipment.
No flat Earthers ever want to take me up on this.
I hate to be uncharitable about it all, but I think it’s because this expedition just might actually prove that you are incorrect and the world is round. 
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where does the science come from for anything pushed as the truth to Us
We Seen during the convid attack how tptb get the version of science they want,We Seen it happen real time
imagine how many would’ve died or would be dying if We did as We were told and “trusted the science”
We had enough common sense/critical thinking to question it and now look at the science telling Us how Good it was that We did
I don’t think its a matter of flat theorists not wanting to take on an expedition to find the Truth no matter the Truths found
Truth Seekers are just that and the Truth is the Truth regardless of feelings
think it’s more of the funding to take on such a scientific journey with the top tools to do so
one could ask the same of round theorists to go on a scientific journey in proving that theory without using any nahsah/tptb provided science that exists
tptb made it so there are no go zones for Us and to go up Ya have a bunch of red tape and permits to jump through
really it’s so either side would not be able to partake in an expedition of Truth for either theory and We stay arguing back and forth
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How it’s done in China. 
https://x.com/i/status/2011052246126248159
Neither Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Einstein nor anyone else has ever provided the world with proof that the Earth revolves around the sun.
Here’s some notable quotes:
“We cannot feel our motion through space, nor has any physical experiment ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.” Historian Lincoln Barnett, foreward by Albert Einstein
“I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment” Albert Einstein
“A great deal of research has been carried out concerning the influence of the Earth’s movement. The results were always negative.” Henri Poincare
This quote is authentic and comes from the work of Henri Poincaré, one of the most outstanding mathematicians and physicists at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries
“No physical experiment has ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.” Lincoln Barnett.
“Thus, even now, three and a half centuries after Galileo’s condemnation by the Inquisition, it is still remarkably difficult to say categorically whether the Earth moves.” Julian Barbour, a world-class physicist in England.
“What was the conclusion of the Michelson-Morley experiment? The implication is that the Earth is not moving.” Richard Wolfson
People are not able to prove whether the earth is heliocentric or geocentric, as the models show the planets and stars appearing in the same places of the sky.
Here’s a snapshot of the comparison of the annual cycle. From the earth view, the perspective looks the same on both models.
In the Preface, the book quotes Einstein:
“The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either coordinate system could be used with equal justification. The two sentences: ‘the sun is at rest and the Earth moves,’ or ‘the sun moves and the Earth is at rest,’ would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different coordinate systems.”
And further:
“When two theories are available and both are compatible with the given arsenal of facts, then there are no other criteria to prefer one over the other except the intuition of the researcher.”
Here’s a snapshot of the comparison of the daily cycle. Again, from the earth view, the perspective looks the same on both models.
Astronomers and Physicists confirm that we on Earth cannot tell the difference between the heliocentric model or the Tychonic geocentric model.
“the Earth-centered system is in reality absolutely identical with the system of Copernicus and all computations of the places of the planets are the same for the two systems.” J.L.E. Dryer, Astronomer
“Whether the Earth rotates once a day from west to east, as Copernicus taught, or the heavens revolve once a day from east to west, as his predecessors believed; the observable phenomena will be exactly the same. This shows a defect in Newtonian dynamics, since an empirical science ought not to contain a metaphysical assumption, which can never be proved or disproved by observation.” Dennis Sciama, Physicist
“So which is real, the Ptolemaic or Copernican system? Although it is not uncommon for people to say that Copernicus proved Ptolemy wrong, that is not true… One can use either picture as a model of the universe, for our observations of the heavens can be explained by assuming either the earth or the sun to be at rest.” Stephen Hawking.
“There is no planetary observation by which we on Earth can prove that the Earth is moving in an orbit around the sun.” I. Bernard Cohen, Physicist
This improved version shows that the orrery demonstrates that you cannot determine between heliocentrism and geocentrism by simply observing the planets, the sun moons etc. Geocentricity is proven my the four scientific experiments discussed in my geocentric video.
Another picture about gravity
Now imagine you are in Australia.
There’s an old saying .. never try and argue with an idiot (please dont take this personally) …because those observing se two idiots arguing . Ya know, the reason our world is well down the slippery slope is because of the very high percentage of NPCs and a high percentage of people who couldn’t locate their ass with both hands - please dont take this personally old rzn - not everyone is given the same equipment to negotiate the hazards and bollards placed in our way (metaphorically). Sadly your replies say enough about your grasp of what is being placed in front of you - your pathetic attempt at analogy is somewhat embarrassing for you I would think….in a word ….lame. Oh, and I’m not the least bit surprised that you fail to realise that santa is an anagram …you have a lot to learn - better to maybe stay blissfully ignorant.
Junior WTFU - try and undertake a private trip to Antarctica - Ya CANT -and all your bullshit waffling shows that you simply continue to regurgitate the same old nasa fanboy garbage - maybe you should investigate Captain James Cook’s attempt at circumnavigation of Antarctica -the problems encountered and the enormous distances covered But you wont bother with the will you junior.
Yes - the THEORY of gravity - the UNPROVEN THEORY of gravity. So much bullshit to try and get us to believe that our ball is mostly covered in CURVED water - how are they still getting away with this….blows my mind to understand that the human race is mostly comatose between the ears. Here’s the thing you need to know boys and girls …gravity is a fairy story …BUT buoyancy and density are REAL and operate everywhere 24/7.
Junior - you spew so much verbiage - ‘bad at math’ seems to be your ‘go to’ …says a lot about whatever you are. Please explain - if we are told by the likes of nasa priests (hahaha) that the earth has a circumference of x and a diameter of y and a radius of z - then we can use the various mathematical models available to calculate the amount of curvature we should see over a given distance. Try it junior - find a place where you can stand and have a clear line of sight to a distance feature - get the actual distance between point A and point B and then feed that into the curvature calculator …and the result will be bullshit because your line of sight will show NO curvature. And since you always play this ‘math’ card (likely because you are shit at math) I direct you to numerous nasa technical tomes relating to linear aircraft flight …and, guess what juniors …it is ALWAYS qualified that this is flight over A FLAT, NON ROTATING EARTH. Dont come back with more crap until you check it out yourself. Your probably dont seem able to grasp the fact that once exposure of the heliocentric lie reaches critical mass, EVERYTHING CHANGES. You are paid to try and prevent this happening but, the truth is, THEY ARE HIDING GOD. We aint no cosmic accident.
Much of what is today considered science is based upon things that simply don’t make sense, e.g. using chemical/pharmaceutical poisons to allegedly fertilize the soil, or “treat” the water or allegedly cure illnesses. How can a poison, i.e. an unnatural concoction that nature rejects, filters or dilutes, somehow help anything or anyone? It obviously cannot.
However, does that mean we can lump everything that is called “science”, including common-sense, into a single bucket and label it nonsense? Of course not.
To do so is totally illogical and dishonest.
Yes, we did. T.h.e.y. told everyone to “trust in the science”, even though their science defied all common-sense and reason, e.g. the use of masks to allegedly filter out particles allegedly so small they could go right through the masks (and when re-breathing one’s own exhaled CO2 is known to be harmful), when “social distancing” is actually anti-social distancing and exhibits a complete understanding of what causes illness) and that the direct injection of poisonous substances directly into the bloodstream can somehow prevent disease.
The latter has been sold to the public now for well over 100 years, so where was the COMMON-SENSE that everyone should have and be putting to good use?
2 Esdras 5:8-10 (prophecy, which is NEVER wrong)
5:8 There shall be a confusion also in many places, and the fire shall often be sent out again, and the wild beasts shall change their places, and child-bearing women shall bring forth monsters (metaphorically):
5:9 And salt waters shall be found in the sweet, and all friends shall destroy one another; then shall common-sense hide itself, and understanding withdraw itself into his secret chamber,
5:10 And shall be sought of many, and yet not be found: then shall unrighteousness and incontinency be multiplied upon Earth.
Everyone would be dead or dying already. That was the point, exactly as we’ve been warned for thousands of years.
Concerning pharmacy (witchcraft/witches’ brew/potions, etc.) :
Galatians 5:19-21
5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
5:20 Idolatry, PHARMACY, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall NOT inherit The Kingdom of God.
We had enough common sense/critical thinking to question it and now look at the science telling Us how Good it was that We did
But when they did exactly that, and took a trip to Antarctica at great expense, what did they find out? THAT THE SUN DOESN’T SET IN ANTARCTICA AT THE HEIGHT OF THE SUMMER SEASON THERE, WHICH IS BETWEEN LATE NOVEMBER AND EARLY JANUARY (the exact opposite time of the year that summer occurs in the northern hemisphere).
So what do proponents of the “flat Earth” do? They tell lies about it, disparage those that put their livelihood and beliefs on the line and went on the trip to discover the truth, and pretend it either never happened are it all must be video fakery, because it doesn’t fit with their imagined version of this world.
Does that sound like “truth-seekers” to you?
Agreed. The Truth doesn’t need anyone to believe it, nor does it require anyone to defend it, nor does it hide itself. It is there for anyone who is genuinely seeking it and who is honest enough to embrace it.
And yes, emotion is the enemy of common-sense and reason.
Watching the sunrise, the sun’s arc across the sky during the day, and the sunset doesn’t require any funding. And when one sees that the sun rises, moves across the sky and sets at the same diameter, it should be self-evident that the “flat Earth” fantasy is physically impossible. But that requires honesty, without emotion, as you’ve pointed out.
They have. A group went to Antarctica over a year ago, and disproved the LIE that had been promoted by the “flat theorists” that Antarctica is allegedly off limits to tourists or that it’s impossible for there to be a 24 hour sun (where the sun doesn’t set) in Antarctica.
So “flat theorists” have been proven wrong about EVERY SINGLE ASSUMPTION they’ve made regarding the sun and how it works, and yet they still are clinging to their “model”, even though it doesn’t represent observable reality.
Again, does that sound like a group of genuine truth-seekers to you?
Have they? Or is this simply another lie that’s been promoted by “flat theorists”, who don’t even have a working map of the Earth?
It’s understood that civilians aren’t allowed inside of military bases without permission, but where are the “guards along the ice-wall” or the alleged armadas keeping private sailboats away from it?
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