Freeman - you AI bot you - so the satanic priests at nasa tell us that we reside on a spinning, water covered ball and that the dimensions of the spinning ball are well known - we even have a curvature calculator and can drop distance figures in to be given the amount of curvature (apparently) we should have over the distance given. So freeman bot, I can go down to a local beach and stand on the waters edge and look at an island 20km away …the earth curvature between me and the island should be close to 100 feet …that is, I should only be able to see whatever is on the island over that 100 feet of curve. Ya got all that freeman bot ? But, strangely, when I look to the island I can see water meeting the beach ..no bullshit curvature anywhere. So freeman bot …please explain where all that curvature went - knock yourself out hahaha
Video by Eric Dubay, falsely claiming that Jesus never existed:
The words of Jesus, the most well-documented individual in human history, who personally fulfilled hundreds of prophecies:
Matthew 12:30 He that is not WITH me is AGAINST me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
The title “Satan” is Hebrew and means “the Opposer”. Anyone who opposes God’s Anointed One, is very obviously satanic.
For those who may have forgotten, Lucifer/Satan/Iblis (the devil/liar) was the INVENTOR of lies.
King of kings’ Bible John 8:35-36 (KJV John 8:44-45)
8:35 Ye are of [YOUR] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father (inventor) of it.
8:36 And because I tell [you] the Truth, ye believe me not.
First explain to me why there is no Interactive Flat Earth with real time sunlight reflection available from the Flat Earth community. Did you look around to see if you could find one? I cannot imagine this has not been attempted yet. Should be simple enough if your theory is correct. I imagine it would be quite an undertaking.
If you would please provide an accurate model of the Flat Earth theory. There are too many contradicting views among the flat earth community to be able to understand what you’re talking about. So far this flat earth theory has been incomprehensible.
I believe the Interactive Globe at https://world-clock.com to be close to perfection. At dawn or sunset I can call anyone in any part of the earth to verify what time it is and if the sun is rising or setting. Do you know why it works so well? Simple, because it is an accurate moving model of the Earth. As conscious observers we were able to create an accurate model based on what our Creator has provided us.
Just to be clear, I’m not following the status quo on this one. The globe model provided makes sense based on what my senses are telling me. I’m not sure there is anything in the scriptures that says what you are proposing. At this point I must conclude that your interpretations of scripture are flawed.
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If you haven’t developed your CGI technique yet, that’s why your landing videos look the way they do. 
“You can cheat everyone some of the time or some people all the time, but you can’t cheat all the people all the time.”
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Where in Genesis can I find verses that point to a flat earth?
Why is it that Jesus never talks about the shape of the earth? Why wouldn’t he hint at the big lies in the future about the shape of the earth? Maybe because it’s very futile? You seem to be obsessed with it. You and your fellow flat earthers only preach the “gospel” of flat earth and seem to find no importance in any other things (as it seems to me). And I find the biblical corroboration very weak, because the bible isn’t a science book and the bible (especially the old testament) is written in poetical language. The bible says that God founded the earth on the seas (Psalm 24). In another verse the earth is founded on pillars (1 Sam. 2:8). Scientificly this is contradictory. Poetically it’s fine. Mind you, the Hebrew people had a very different approach in writing things down. Also there are layers in the Hebrew language that are lost in the translation. You have to be very carefull with taking the Bible literally. I recommend reading “Roots of the Bible” by Friedrich Weinreb to learn more about the hidden layers and Hebrew numerology. With that in mind you see that the Bible is more about patterns in poetic form than scientific explanations.
In the Christian tradition and modern interpretations of prophecies, the second coming of Christ (parousia) is closely related to signs in the sky, including the motif of two suns.
Prophecy of the Sun of Righteousness: Biblical texts (e.g., Malachi 4:2) describe Christ as the “Sun of Righteousness” who will rise in the last days. Some interpreters suggest that the second coming may occur around 2,000 years after the crucifixion (estimated at 30-33 AD), which puts the years 2026-2033 in the spotlight of eschatological groups.
Nowhere (it’s understood it was a rhetorical question).
In Scripture, there can be both physical meanings and spiritual/metaphorical meanings. Sometimes only one applies, while other times both can apply.
“Pillars” can be solid vertical supports, like those which supported the Ark of the Covenant or, more frequently, they are representative (e.g. a pillar of salt, a pillar of fire, pillars of a “Cloud”, Jacob’s Pillar-Stone, etc.).
1 Samuel 2:6-9
2:6 The “I AM” killeth, and maketh alive: He bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
2:7 The “I AM” maketh poor, and maketh rich: He bringeth low, and lifteth up.
2:8 He raiseth up the poor (Matt. 5:3) out of the dust (Gen. 13:16), [and] lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set [them] among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth [are] the “I AM”'s, and He hath set the world upon them.
2:9 He will guard the feet of His faithful, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.
2:10 The adversaries of the “I AM” shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall He thunder upon them: the “I AM” shall judge the ends of the earth; and He shall give strength unto His king, and exalt the horn (kingdom) of His anointed.
Enoch 18:1-6
18:1 I then surveyed the receptacles of all the winds, perceiving that in them were the ornaments of the whole creation, and to preserve the foundation of the Earth.
18:2 I surveyed the Stone which supports the corners of the Earth (Corner-Stone - Matt. 21:42).
18:3 I also beheld the four winds, which bear up the Earth, and the firmament of heaven.
18:4 And I beheld the winds occupying the height of heaven.
18:5 Arising in the midst of heaven and of Earth, and constituting the pillars of heaven.
18:6 I saw the winds which turn the sky, which cause the ORB (sphere) of the sun and of all the stars to set; and over the Earth I saw the winds which support the clouds.
Definition of “orb” /ôrb/
noun
- A sphere or spherical object.
- A celestial body, such as the sun or moon.
- The earth.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
Psalm 24:1-3
24:1 (A Psalm of David.) The earth [is] the “I AM”'s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
24:2 For He hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.
24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the “I AM”? Or who shall stand in His Holy Place?
Physical meaning (which itself also has a built-in spiritual/metaphorical meaning – Gen. 1:28):
Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the WATERS bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Spiritual/metaphorical meaning (where the “seas”/”waters” are defined as the people):
Isaiah 17:12-13
17:12 Woe to the multitude of many people, [which] make a noise like the noise of the “seas”; and to the rushing of nations, [that] make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
17:13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters (Rev. 17:15): but [God] shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
And with regard to the “firmament”, that too is defined in Scripture, in the very first chapter of Genesis.
Genesis 1:6-8
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters (Rev. 17:15), and let it divide the waters from the waters (Rev. 12:3-4).
1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament (Rev. 12:7-9): and it was so.
1:8 And GOD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN. And the evening and the morning were the Second Day.
And again…
Enoch 18:3 I also beheld the four winds, which bear up the Earth, AND THE FIRMAMENT OF HEAVEN.
God called the firmament Heaven because that is where God is (Matt. 6:9), and HE is the firm foundation upon which everything is built, beginning with the Chief-Cornerstone that He laid (Christ – Gen. 49:22-24; Matt. 21:42).
Definition of firmament /fûr′mə-mənt/
noun
- The vault or expanse of the heavens; the sky.
- Fixed foundation; established basis.
- The region of the air; the sky or heavens.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
The waters represent time. Gods spirit hovered above it, meaning he transcends time. That is why there is no sea anymore after the apocalypse (Rev. 21:1: Revelation 21:1
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
And that is also why Jesus walked upon the water, meaning he is hovering above it like Gods spirit in Genesis. And that is why he commanded his disciples to be fishers of men, to draw them out of the chaos of time to be in eternity. They didn’t have to be literal fishers with a fishing rod waiting for a human to take the bait. Baptism is also an image of going through time into eternity. Furthermore water is a symbol for death, the flood is a perfect example. The ark of Noah is floating on death you can say. The Hebrew word for Ark is Tebah, and Tebah literally means ‘‘Word’’. So it is the Word who/which saves (the Logos in John)
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The “waters” which thou sawest, where the “Whore” sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
While physically true, Christ-Jesus walked on top of the water to symbolize His Rightful place as our King (Luke 1:31-33; Rev. 19:16), and to confirm He (Christ) was sent from ABOVE.
King of kings’ Bible - John 8:14 (KJV 8:23) And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above (see: Gen. 1:7 again) ye are of this world; I AM NOT FROM THIS WORLD.
The reason there is no more “sea” in the new heaven and new earth is because only 144,000 souls (spiritual-Beings) will survive The Fire that awaits most of mankind on Judgement Day (Rev. 7:4-9; Rev. 14:1-4)
The 144.000, like many other numbers in the Bible, is not to be taken literally. The number in itself represents something. In this case it means 12.000 of each of the 12 tribes of Israel. The number 12 stands for the outer limit of this world, the 13th is the beginning of something new (Jesus + 12 disciples), just like the number 8. That is why Jews are circumsised on the 8th day. We still live in the 7th day of Creation. The 8th is yet to begin. The word ‘to tell’ comes from the word ‘to count’. In the ancient world numbers had meaning, in the modern world we can’t grasp this anymore because we lost connection to the deeper understanding of certain numbers.
Every Hebrew letter stand for a number. The last letter, the letter TAW is also the number 400 (in ancient Hebrew this letter is a cross). The 400 years of slavery means that if you follow the ways of this world, it will last forever. Egypt in Hebrew is Mitsrayim, this word means ‘doubleness’. Escaping out of Egypt means escaping out of doubleness.
God wants us to be one, of no contradiction. BUT: God himself made the contradictions in everything, to create literally means to divide. On the second day he divided the waters, and this was the only day that God didn’t say it was good. Because the waters represent death and doubleness. God split everything so that HIS people can taste the joy of reuniting. In Isaiah 45:7 it says:
‘‘ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.’’
All of creation is a trial for us men. We can choose the light, or the darkness.
The story of creation in Genesis lays out the spiritual order of things. There is a pattern there that is layed out in the rest of the Bible.
1st day: Light/Darkness (the masculine principle, light is penetrating - active, for example the sun gives light
2nd day: Waters above/waters below (the feminine principle - the passive)
3rd day: There is doubleness in the 3rd day 1: (land [masculine] seas [feminine]
2: plants that yield seed [masculine] fruit trees [feminine]
the 4th day is the same as the first day, but making it more concrete: the Sun [masculine]
the Moon and the Stars [feminine}
(thats why women menstruate [following the pattern of the moon]
5th Day: Birds [masculine}
Fish in the sea [feminine]
The 6th day has yet again a doubleness: 1: Wild animals [masculine] - and Cattle [feminine - passive]
2: Man Adam [masculine] - Woman Eve [feminine]
On the 7th God goes back in Oneness, after he divided Himself.
So the pattern is:
1: Masculine
2: Feminine
3: Doubleness (2x the Creation formulae: ‘‘And God said’’
We see the same pattern in the 3 patriarchs:
1: Abraham: He is a viril man. In many verses there are allusions to fire and light (Gen. 15:12, Gen. 15:17, Gen. 19:24, Gen. 19:28, Gen. 22:6) . Sodom and Gomorra are destroyed by fire. The sacrifice, or the near-sacrifice of Isaac happens on wood which was meant to be set in flames.
2: Isaac, the second Patriarch. There are many allusions to water in the story of Isaac (Gen. 26:17-18, Gen. 21: 15-33). Isaac meets Rebecca at a well. Isaac is also very passive in the story. He is blind and Rebecca makes all the decisions.
3: Jacob, the 3rd Patriarch is one of two (Esau is his twin brother). So there is the same doubleness as on the 3rd day. He also has two wives. There is also a trope of doubleness in the story with Laban about the spotted animals. In his story animals play a big role (just like the 6th day - he 6th day is the concretion of the 3rd day).
Fun fact: (edited in): the 3rd constellation in the Zodiac is Gemini (Twins)
I can write books and books about the patterns, but it really comes down to this:
We are made of flesh and of spirit. And we need to command our flesh with our spirit, so that the doubleness will become one. Jacob represents the spirit (he lives in tents , is a calm man) and Esau represents the Flesh (he is a hunter). Same goes with Abel and Cain. Abel is the spirit (he is a shepherd - meaning he has control over the animals [the animals stand for flesh). And Cain is a servant of the earth (meaning he is Flesh). We have to let go of the lusts of the flesh, and need to be in command of our lusts, then we will be as one. The bread and the wine of Jesus is the fullfilment of the sacrifice of Cain and Abel.
Maybe I’m rambling a bit and going off topic. If anyone is interested in patterns and numerology we can start a new topic in this forum.
I agree, I’ve written this before.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This thread is a testament to that.
The 144,000 is however a literal number. It means exactly what it says. No one else will be redeemed from the Earth, which should provide everyone with ample incentive to bring their own lives in line with our Creator and learn to start keeping His Law.
The 144,000 redeemed from the Earth that are genuinely interested in building the Kingdom of God here on Earth. Ushering in an era of “self” control and the peace, wisdom, love, justice and freedom, that come with His Perfect Law, given to us to set us free from oppression and injustice.
Only then will Father’s Commandments, Statutes and Judgments, along with the perfect agricultural policy, the perfect economic policy, the perfect system of justice, the perfect system of governance and the perfect healthy diet finally be kept to everyone’s individual and collective benefit.
Sadly, in this lunatic asylum, very few are interested in the Truth, which is why we are on a kamikaze course to bring an end to all flesh here on Earth (Matt. 24:21-22).
That’s the point of the Flat Earth “community”. Controlled managed opposition.
A brief and simple point, being shared for everyone’s benefit:
ALL corporate fictional governments and ALL of their corporate fictional agencies LIE.
That includes NASA, NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, MI5, MI6, Mossad, Israeli Secret Intelligence Services (ISIS), etc. ALL of them.
Does that mean everything they say is a lie? No.
Does it mean some things that these government agencies tell us can be trusted? No. Once someone has lied, and continues to lie, they cannot be trusted.
Does NASA claiming the Earth is a sphere, or providing photos that are composites or CGI somehow mean the Earth is flat?
Again, NO.
It simply doesn’t logically follow (non-sequitur).
So every single time someone posts something about NASA (regardless of what it is) it doesn’t prove anything with regard to the shape of the Earth, one way or another. What it does prove is that those posting such things either don’t know what constitutes logic and evidence, or they don’t care.
