Look - they say never argue with an idiot ….try and understand this - i know its a stretch for you …you are not disputing a stationary earth ….so, where is all that apparent movement that we forever fail to see - just start on that matey …why can we photograph Polaris year after year and there it is …fixed - with the lights in the firmament describing perfect circles around it. Anyone can do this - even someone like you with your head up your arse hahahahaha
The star trails are actually saying a rotating Earth makes more sense, if what you’re talking about are the long-exposure photographs. It doesn’t matter if Polaris is fixed or moves slightly. You’ll have the same effect either way with a rotating Earth. Since Polaris is almost, but not quite fixed and because the Earth’s axis is almost, but not precisely pointing to it, the surrounding stars will appear like circles on long-exposure photographs because of their relative motion.
If you have an Earth that doesn’t rotate around its own axis, then you wouldn’t have those circles around Polaris, unless the universe rotates around the Earth, (which is also possible. Again, I’m not disputing a stationary Earth), but not if those stars are thousands of light years away. It would be physically impossible to move at x times the speed of light. In that case, you would have to fall back on Sungenis’s appeal to relativity and frame-of-reference coordinate system. (You are aware of Sungenis, right?)
But if you’re thinking of a “firmament”, a.k.a a stationary sky, then that whole Polaris-with-circles phenomenon is impossible, because something has to be rotating. Unless you go the Truman Show route and believe the stars in the sky are spotlights directed by a lighting crew.
Now get to the point, please. And don’t forget to tie this in with your Flat Earth beliefs.
To borrow from B Clinton - that child raping, child murdering, blood drinking piece of shit …..Its the FIRMAMENT stupid !!….whoever gave you the ‘firmament aka stationary sky’ bullshit - where do you get this stuff dodger - turn your fucking brain on - how, with all this alleged movement of the ‘spinning ball’ do we have, year after year after year after year the rotation of the same constellations - right on time …this is IMPOSSIBLE if we are doing all this spinning and wobbling while, at the same time, screaming at mind bending (alleged) speeds through the galaxy. Fuck dodger - how is it possible that you can be that thick - sadly, lots of NPCs are hahahaha
My goodness, you must be trolling.
Okay, it’s clear now that you don’t know the basic mechanics.
Why exactly is that impossible?
Do you assume that multiple moving and rotating bodies automatically lead to chaos?
The constellations are the same every year, because the Earth rotates around the Sun every year. And technically, the constellations aren’t exactly the same every year. They move ever so slightly that a change at hundreds of light years distance from Earth is just not noticeable, even if they move millions or billions of kilometers. It only becomes noticeable over a long period of time. We’re talking millennia.
You will never in your lifetime be personally able to empirically verify with the naked eye the movement of these stars, so you’ll go “Aha! I knew it. Believing they move requires blind faith in NASA!”.
Not really. It would require a mere verification of basic math and physics. But that might be a stretch for some. You’re clearly an unserious person who’s lacking basic education who, after all this time, STILL hasn’t given a Flat Earth argument. lol
Scientists, geographers and astronomers etc think that if their eyes tell them something, it must be true, whether they’re peering down a microscope or telecope, but they’d do well to heed the Baron’s good advice…![]()
Kidding on the square…
Two flat earthers die and go to heaven (the firmament).
At the pearly gates they have the chance to ask God any questions they want and get truthful answers, so one flat earther asks God "is the earth flat?" to which God answers “No.”
The one flat earther looks at the other and says "this goes higher than we thought".
You have shown by that totally illogical rubbish that you are either an AI bot, a paid troll working for the heliocentrist scum, a nasa fan-boy - jerking off while watching those freemasonsonic, Fake Station actors on the ‘green screen’ - or just a fucking idiot. Likely, more than one of the above hahahaha. Its incredible how predictable it is - when you start a discussion questioning the reality of this realm, within a few microseconds the discussion is crawling with cockroaches supporting the spinning, curved-water covered ball and yelling ‘why dont we fall off the edge …?’ So long cockroach.
But if the earth is flat, WHY are scientists and astronomers saying it’s round? What’s their motive? What’s in it for them?
Zero arguments. Still not a single piece of evidence for Flat Earth. Just vitriol and ad hominems because of intellectual insecurity.
I think anyone sitting on the fence isn’t stepping off at your side anytime soon.
For you to even ask such a question tells me just how little you understand about the way things work within this realm - you have a fucking long way to go grasshopper …better just keep taking all your world views from the MSM - the truth is out there but I doubt you will wander too far off the reservation to look for it. There is stuff to know …but once you know it, you cant unknow it …for you I understand …ignorance is bliss.
Unfortunately our human brains don’t have the horsepower to see the Big Picture..![]()
Wait, I feel a profound speculation coming on..![]()
Perhaps our realm (the world and the universe) is just an illusion or dream, and Jesus was a ‘Master of the Art of Dream Manipulation’, bending so-called “reality” to produce what looked like miracles to people?
Jesus said- “I am not of this world …though you do not believe me, believe the miracles” (John 8:23,John 10:38,Matt 13:35)
Geeeez we have a intellectual midget here ….pleeeeeze explain the ‘big bang’ ….surely you arent subscribing to that fairytale that goes along the lines of .. and then, children, a wonderful, magical thing happened …where there was once NOTHING, all of a sudden, in the space of a nanosecond - or even faster, there was this BIG BANG and ‘nothing’ was turned into ‘everything’ …and, strangely, children - nobody was there to record it - there is no evidence that it actually happened ….but the ‘dark controllers’ decided to take the book of Genesis and soup it up and call it science … and some very soft headed, intellectually challenged cellar dwellers actually believe it hahahahaha …. Oh, and children, some of these cellar dwellers wonder where ships go when they fall of the edge of the Flat Sacred Realm …they have never seen the edge - nobody has - no ships have ever got past the Great Ice Wall that encloses our enclosed system - but the intellectual dwarfs are out there with their cave-man understanding - asking the most inane questions….why would you continually embarrass yourself - showing just how limited your understanding really is …..vaccinations have just made so many, who started out stupid, even more so.
You obviously havent read all those nasa publications covering aeronautical maths and science - you know, the ones that mention NUMEROUS times that the technical material applies to a FLAT NONROTATING EARTH. Being a nasa fanboy/girl (whatever) you really show yourself up as pathetically uninformed and prone to running off at the mouth about subjects of which you are clueless. Those publications are out there if you have the guts to look and, if it’s good enough for nasa, it should be plenty good enough for the likes of a fanboy/girl whatever. Hahahahaha - beautiful - you have revealed sooooo much about yourself - obviously a poor sad moron hahahaha.
How did the two Voyagers get past the ice wall and are now well outside the solar system?
WIKI- “The Voyager spacecraft will eventually go on to the stars. .”
PS- For the record I’ve always hated the sickening vanity ‘space race’ by NASA and the USSR and their morally corrupt spending of billions on it, and their disgusting firing of animals into space !
Yet can’t give a single reply without mentioning NASA.
Or with a single argument.
People expecting an argument from Kidkip:

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And you actually believe we sent ANYTHING into ‘space’ hahahaha … there aint no space ‘out there’ grasshopper…but there is LOTS of it between your ears hahahaha …..Voyager …hahaha …I nearly pissed my pants ….nasa loves the morons hahahah




