I am confused - are the people here Gnostics or are they critical of it?

Cause like half of the posts seem to promote Gnosticism in one form or another and the other half criticizes it. Which is kinda typical of what the whole truther movement and most conspiracy theorists have become nowadays and why they can’t achieve anything cause they are totally divided and half of them attacks its own other half and the other half attacks that half.

Like there are a lot of posts that seem critical of Gnosticism and correctly point out that many powerful people believe in that religion nowadays. But then like the other half of the posts promote Gnosticism by repackaging it and making it sound even more far fetched than it already was. Claiming something along the lines of us living in a Matrix run by Saturn and his archons zhe chooose and so on.

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THE X AND Y PARADOX

​The individual making the post complains that the community is split into two: those who “promote” Gnosticism and those who “criticize” it.

​To imprison a community within only two opposing poles is to force Truth into a choice between these two options. Revolving endlessly between the poles of “Gnosticism is good” (Red) or “Gnosticism is bad” (Blue) prevents one from asking for the Yellow Option (The Third Way / The Truth). While people are attacking one another, no one concerns themselves with the honesty of the matter within the realm of MMEM (Realm, Matter, Energy, Message).

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The elites aren’t Gnostics; they’re Kabbalists. Kabbalah is to Gnosticism (Christian mysticism) as Judaism is to Christianity, ie: an inversion.

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Gnosticism is a wacky cult whose members think they know better than the rest of us poor slobs, it’s a vanity thing like so many other ‘vanity cults’..:slight_smile:

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Well yeah seen from a Gnostic perspective of course. And that’s what I said. From a Gnostic perspective Jews are basically akin to the Archons and their God Jehovah is akin to the demiurge. But from a MAINSTREAM Christian and MAINSTREAM Jewish perspective, the god of BOTH is Jehovah and he is good. So from a mainstream Jewish&Christian perspective the real inversion is Gnosticism. And from a Gnostic perspective too, the inversion is mainstream Judaism/Christianity.

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If Gnostics reject Jesus, they’ve got zero chance of making it through the pearlies..:slight_smile:

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It’s worse than them rejecting Jesus - they think they ARE Jesus!

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If any of them are Jesus, I’m Mary Poppins..:slight_smile:

“Jesus said - Take heed that no one deceives you, for many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and will deceive many” (Mark 13:5/6)

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I’m kind of a Gnostic, but I try not to criticize others- only their ideas when necessary.

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Gnosticism is the heresy 1 John addresses and summarily dismantles.

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Show me a Gnostic who rejected Jesus. Just one will do.

A real Gnostic, ie. from anywhere between the 1st and 14th centuries.

Also, interesting coming from someone who keeps saying Jesus isn’t God.

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Yahweh isn’t the Demiurge. El is. Yahweh is Ba’al.

No. Gnostics believe in an inner Christ, like all original Christians. They don’t believe they’re the only-begotten Son.

Yahweh is also El, who is Yaldabaoth (Saturn) the demiurge, who is also Anu, Saturnus, Kronos, Shanidev, Set, Baron Samedi, and Tezcatlipoca.

Ba’al means lord, so any powerful entity can call themselves ba’al,

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Ba’al was a specific deity in the Semitic pantheons. He’s the warrior storm god who defeated the primordial serpent. He was a god of plagues. He rode the clouds. All these epithets were Yahweh’s in Israel. He was called Lord (Ba’al) for his feats.

The Greek equivalent was Zeus first, Apollo later. Saturnus and Cronus were demiurgic deities who separated Heaven and Earth, which in Semitic mythologies equates with El.

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1- If Gnostics don’t reject Jesus they’ve got a chance of making it through the pearlies..:slight_smile:

2- We KNOW Jesus wasn’t God because he said so himself..:)-

"A certain ruler asked Jesus “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
‘Why do you call me good?’ Jesus answered, “No one is good except God alone” (Luke 18:18/19)

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You would know very well that, fundamentally, the god of judaism is satan and, according to the talmud, Jesus is boiling in semen and excrement ….and of course you would also know that, at the ‘pointy end’ of Christianity - the vatican - lucifer is their god …something most christians dont have a clue about. So, yes, they worship the same ‘god’ - the ruler of this material realm …and he/she/it is ‘good’ to those who would trade their souls for trash.

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Muslims don’t reject Jesus and they don’t believe he is God. Will Muslims make it “through the pearlies”?

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@Scout To not acknowledge Jesus as Lord is rejecting Him.

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Nope. “Unless you believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins” (John 8:58).

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