The reality of our Flat, Non Rotating Realm - The Greatest Lie

Freeman - you grow more and more pathetic - you seem unable to understand that the ‘g’ does NOT represent gravitational acceleration because gravity DOES NOT EXIST. Please dont tell me that, because one element of you equation is given the ‘g’ symbol, you believe that gravity exists …when, in actuality, the bullshit theory of gravity has NEVER been proven. Its just bodies falling through less dense mediums - not rocket science hahahaha

Some people (like you) ask the most brainlessly inane questions - you must have done most of your schooling sitting in the dunce’s corner hahahaha - try and get your head around this (difficult for you obviously) ….matter that is denser than the surrounding medium will fall vertically - to suggest that a body could fall other than vertically is, frankly, stupid - unless the falling body was propelled by some energy force … a jetliner crashing into a couple of towers and driven by ‘green room’ technology hahahaha

Well we’ve NEVER seen an object moving forever in ‘space’ …..because ‘space’ is only your imagination and nasa fan boy conditioning telling all the NPCs that ‘voyager’ has been travelling for years - when …spoiler alert ….voyager doesn’t exist …..its as real as the Fake station and all those ‘green screen’ bad actors. Whew - you really have to be intellectually challenged in a serious way to believe this shit. But you do hahahaha

But WHY would the authorities lie to us? What’s their motive?

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It’s not really a stupid question, your answer is rather stupid. You just say: it falls vertically because it falls vertically. Good job at applying circular reasoning. You have provided no scientific answer to my question.

You don’t have any idea about the implications of this density-theory. Ofcourse I can see things are falling vertically, but your theory suggests that’s because the air underneath is less dense. But the air to the side is as less dense. Your theory needs to explain why it falls to the ground instead of to the side. If you think the question is stupid you completely lack scientific imagination.

I don’t suggest that something falls sideways. My question is: Why doesn’t it fall sideways? How does an object “know” what is vertical?

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Excerpt below from:

Why Density and Buoyancy Can’t Substitute for Gravity

(c) 2020 by Barton Paul Levenson

Introduction

Why do Flat Earthers insist there’s no such thing as gravity? Because if gravity exists,

  1. It would pull anything the mass of Earth into spherical shape. That’s why planets are round.
  2. It would keep the oceans on the Earth’s surface instead of having them flung away by centrifugal force.

The Earth rotates, and Flat Earthers often try to disprove this by pointing out that pouring water on a rapidly spinning basketball or tennis ball gets the water flung off. Clearly, they think, the same should happen to the oceans.

![|360x216](https://bartonlevenson.com/spinning tennis ball.JPG)

Units

Let’s review some basic physics. Newton’s first law is: an object remains at rest or moving with a fixed velocity unless a net force is imposed on it. In other words, you can’t change velocity without imposing a force. In mathematical terms:

f = m a

where f is force, m mass, and a acceleration. In the SI metric system, mass m is measured in kilograms, and acceleration a in meters per second squared–an acceleration of 1 m s-2 means velocity increases by 1 meter per second every second. So units of force must be kilogram meters per second squared (kg m s-2). Force in the SI is measured in “newtons,” where 1 N = 1 kg m s-2. Same thing.

Density

Flat Earthers say density accounts for why things fall, and buoyancy accounts for why some things don’t fall (e.g. helium balloons).

Ignore the obvious problems with this, like the fact that the density of the air decreases as you go up (away from Earth’s surface). That being the case, things should fall up, since the difference in density is greater going up than going down.

Instead, let’s just point out that density in the SI is measured in units of kilograms per cubic meter (kg m-3). This is not a unit of force. Difference in density? Still kg m-3. Subtract the density of air (1.225 kg m-3) from the density of a rock (3,000 kg m-3) and you’ve still got a figure in the same units (2,998.775 kg m-3). Wrong units. Density is not a force.

Buoyancy

How about buoyancy? Buoyancy IS a force! The equation for it is:

f = ρ g V

where ρ is the density of the medium, g the acceleration of gravity–how about that, you need a term for gravity in the buoyancy equation!–and V is the volume of medium displaced. Let’s check the units. Density ρ is in kg m-3. Gravity g is in m s-2. And volume V is in cubic meters (m3). Multiplying them all together, you get… kg m s-2, which are newtons, the units of force.

But consider that g term. Without gravity, buoyancy won’t work. Put a rubber duck in a three-foot ball of water in zero g, perhaps on the International Space Station, and it will not float to the surface. There’s no preferred direction if g = 0.

![|215x196](https://bartonlevenson.com/rubber duck.JPG)

So density isn’t a force and buoyancy depends on gravity to work. And the Flat Earthers are wrong.

Surprise, surprise.

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Maybe you two should call it a wrap? This thread has devolved into nothing more than ad hominem/mudslinging. The rest of us perusing it are embarassed on your collective behalves.

I think this guy has an agenda - and it’s not to help this community, suffice it to say.

Notice how he responded to me but ignored the question about his very curious choice of online handles. :thinking:


Again - apropos of nothing, perhaps, and a complete coincidence to this discussion! - I will point out that COINTEL teaches a technique called “anger trolling” when their agents infiltrate online forums - they put out insults in combination with unscientific “debunks” meant to make truther communities look embarrassing for even having the person in question as part of the community.

The insults then provoke honest truthers to the point of rage - which pollutes and obscures discussions, and also provides blackmail material if the truthers in question lose their own tempers so far back as to start making hostile or threatening posts towards the agent.

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There is a non-trivial amount of evidence that at least the early NASA programs were faked to frighten the Chinese.

I also do hear some other very troubling rumors - to wit, that though space is real, it is possible that much of the Apollo program was indeed fake, and that humankind has still not landed on the moon with anything other than rovers.

The wild theories I heard in this vein at the time were:

  1. We haven’t actually solved the radiative shielding problem with regards to traveling too far outside Earth’s atmosphere and magnetic field. This is plausible to me. Cosmic radiation is wild stuff. It is absolutely capable of killing a human without the protective effects of Earth’s atmosphere and magnetosphere.
  2. The moon itself may, um, not actually be barren of sentient life. This is less plausible to me given the lack of surface water and so forth - but not entirely out of scientific reach either, as anyone who has read a majority of threads here knows I believe there may be nonhuman, intelligent, and hostile life on Earth already.

This is all stuff I put in the “vile hearsay” category. Any of it could be :poop: .

Certainly I do not believe humankind’s satellites are fake, nor the International Space Station.

But I do repeat rumors on issues like this because it is my experience that the truth about any deeply classified lie starts out as the most vile of rumors, and remains in that category for decades until brave muckrakers and journalists really find out what went on.

The issue for me in trusting NASA and our lunar programs remains Lyndon Johnson. He was NASA’s biggest backer - and he was a lying goddamned crook who probably murdered his boss. I absolutely believe the Johnson Space Center could be hiding a lot of bad secrets and that Johnson might have faked U.S. space superiority at the time as a psychological force multiplier in Vietnam.


As usual, as long as Mаsons control our goverment, we are unlikely to get real answers on any of it - so my continued suggestion to the community would be that, rather than fighting endlessly, we all focus instead on getting representation in U.S. government that is not Mаsonic, and would undertake audits of all these problematic agencies that have been perverted from their honest use in serving the American people to peddle war propaganda instead.

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Oh, and the other reason I don’t believe we’re getting the full story on this is that it’s quite likely that the Air Force has a secret, suborbital, nuclear-powered VTOL extreme high-altitude bomber/surveillance craft that they’re not disclosing to the public.

Say hello to the TR-3B “Black Manta” or “Aurora” - the infamous “black triangle” of so many UFO sightings. The four lights on the bottom are allegedly either nuclear-powered jet engines or some kind of even stranger and currently undisclosed antigrav technology. It is supposedly capable of omnidirectional flight, can stop and turn on a dime compared to conventional jet technology - and has a habit of going straight “up” when sighted until it is literally too small to track. :scream:

Details on this thing are very sketchy indeed - but my own analysis is that if it really is a suborbital nuclear bomber, it can probably stay in the air for a very long time - just like our nuclear-powered subs under the Arctic - and can probably do both nuclear and tungsten rod bombardments from extreme high altitude or possibly even low Earth orbit as well.

If the U.S. space program is keeping this big a military secret from the public - and I do believe it is, based on some months of research on the issue - then a lot of the civilian space program could easily be a lie.

That implies some scary stuff - because if this is the real space program they’re not telling us about, and it is indeed military-grade nuclear-powered suborbital technology used for surveillance by the deep state, who knows what kind of other other space-age military deep state secrets they could be hiding from us up there?

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I try to be civilised and ask genuine questions. But Kidkip perceives almost everything as stupid. I don’t really care. Sometimes it’s amusing.

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Freeman - let me once again point out YOUR elephant - you word salad that you laboured over - copy and paste actually - is based upon the assumption that ‘gravity’ is a ‘thing’. Please try and understand this …. I know, its a challenge for you to understand much at all ….so, really TRY and understand that its NOT gravity … its THE THEORY OF GRAVITY. Gravity is a fairytale - invented to convince NPCs that we are on a spinning ball covered mostly by curved water and the word horizontal doesn’t really describe something being horizontal - it actually describes curved water ….responding to you is like wasting my time with a lunatic … I think the terminal cognitive dissonance will see you basket weaving into old age.

Well,if you came here, there must have been something that pricked your interest - if not, then go someplace else. However, maybe after wading through various opinions expressed (intelligently or otherwise), you may have an inclination to pursue the subject covered. Then, after a period of personal research, you may find that what you believed, in relation to your reality and the nature of the realm you currently inhabit, has more holes than a block of swiss cheese. Knock yourself out ….or not.

They want us to believe that we are the result of a cosmic accident - existing on a tiny spinning ball and rotating around a tiny insignificant ‘sun’ star. They tell us about ‘space’ and the mind numbing light-year distances between stars, planets, galaxies - ‘telephone numbers’ that nobody can check or verify - they tell us that space is a vacuum and yet our atmosphere is able to coexist alongside it - they spend trillions of dollars created out of thin air to keep this enormous lie intact. Why do they do it - why did the masonic satan worshippers push the heliocentric model as opposed to the geocentric model which was reflected in the belief of ancient cultures all over the realm …they do it to HIDE GOD. Why do you suppose there is now a HUGE effort on discredit FE - think about it, if FE is just crazy, tin foil had lunatic fringe stuff, why would you bother doing anything to counter or discredit it - you would just let it dissolve into its own clown world. But so many are now waking up to this huge lie that we have been told for generations - and now we have fake moon landings, fake mars landings, fake ‘space’ stations, fake astroNOTS, and a whole bunch of fake ‘space’ agencies around the realm - ALL DOING NOTHING. Please try and understand - anyone can prove that we dont reside on a spinning ball …then you have to confront the fact that we reside on something else entirely - a magical realm where ANYTHING is possible and your GOD is close at hand - either the God of light and love or the God of darkness and evil. We all have a choice - it’s free will. Currently the levers of power in this material realm are held by those who chose satan - this is changing.

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freeman - you go to all manner of lengths to try and convince me that the easter bunny is real - you continually post stuff you’ve found that supports your (deluded) view of reality …stop wasting your life - I could post truckloads of evidence, videos, whatever that would illustrate your retarded thinking - but, in the end, whatever I say or provide will be lost on you. Isn’t it time for your daily worship at your nasa shrine ….hahahaha

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The Bible doesn’t lie; people do.

In this thread, there hasn’t been one single shred of actual evidence provided by anyone promoting the LIE that the Earth is allegedly flat.

Why is that? Because it’s a LIE, repeated by clueless, arrogant people who don’t know what they’re talking.

When someone lacks common-sense, honesty and good manners, they mistakenly believe if they shout loud enough they can continue to ignore all of the REAL evidence (Truth) that proves them wrong. All that really does though is expose their ignorance and arrogance to everyone else.

Anyone can observe the curvature of the Earth’s surface from the surface of the Earth, a task made particularly easy when looking out over the ocean on a calm day. Ships do disappear bottom first over the horizon, and once they disappear, no amount of magnification can bring them back.

The sun rises, arcs across the sky, an then sets at full diameter, where it remains completely out of view until the next sunrise.

Anyone who claims otherwise is a LIAR, regardless of whether they are merely ignorant (speaking of things they know nothing about) or whether they are being intentionally deceptive.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with Fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Learn to stop lying to yourselves and others. Or burn. It’s a very simple choice and one that should remind all of us to tread very carefully, and treat one another with love and respect.

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As a matter of interest, if the earth is flat why don’t ships fall off the edge of it?

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They believe (I don’t) that the flat earth is circumfered by an ice wall (the continent Antarctica on the globe). What’s behind the ice wall is another question which they have the wildest theories about.

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