Then we are getting to the point of talking about the Bavarian Illuminati, the Jesuits, the Vatican, The Freemasons, Shriners, and the Royal Bloodlines.
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We always have been.
I’d still like the science to track clean.
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“Truth and power can travel together only so far. Sooner or later they go their separate paths. If you want power, at some point you will have to spread fictions”
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Here is junior - ‘as an engineer ….’ And he’s on with the ‘math’ again ….from what you write on this forum - not forgetting your self proclaimed ‘expert’ status on the 9/11 ritual, I see nothing which would make me associate you with any talent - apart from self delusion. So junior (engineer, expert ..whatever) - please explain how curvature is calculated over a given distance - there are, as we know tools/apps readily available for a couple of keystrokes - but your much vaunted ‘math’ superiority can likely show us where all those curve calculators are wrong ….or course (spoiler alert) they are ALL wrong if applied to geocentrism hahaha.
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Yes - the dark scum have equipped their AI platforms to replace truth with lies for any subject which gets into forbidden territory .. I have had a few ‘conversations’ with various versions of AI and it’s ALWAYS the same - they regurgitate the lies they have been programmed to use. The truth of the nature of our sacred realm must be getting close to critical mass … I mean how many more fake space agencies do we have to endure - how many pathetic videos of moon (whatever) landings ….truly unbelievable.
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Do you know the great thing about the modern world? Most of humanity’s scientific information is freely available over the Internet if you know where to look.
For instance, this series of shots taken in Chilean waters is from Wikipedia.
It shows this tanker piloting towards the camera, with only the tanker’s observation tower visible in the first photo at a distance of roughly 18km (11mi) - which is empirical evidence for a drop of roughly 23m per 18km given the size of the boat.
That’s empirical evidence which can be used to verify the theoretically predicted value from geometry and trigonometry for Earth’s horizon drop:
Where:
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d is the distance to the true (geometric) horizon;
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R is the radius of the assumed body
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h is the height of the observer above sea level
This formula gives a predicted value of a horizon at 17.1 km distance to cause a 23m drop in the visibility of height of objects at that horizon - not too far off from the empirical value, and atmospheric phenomena can indeed bend the light a little bit.
If you’d like more information on the derivation of the horizon formula using trigonometry, I’d be happy to oblige.
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It has been said that cursing is a weak-mind attempting to express itself forcefully.
The “man” (identifying himself as William Moore Jr.) in this conversation doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and resorts to cursing and dishonesty to try to protect his ego-boundaries.
As someone who has sailed for thousands and thousands of miles, it can be personally testified with absolute certainty that when a ship disappears over the horizon, IT CANNOT BE SEEN REGARDLESS OF THE MAGNIFICATION USED. Why is that? BECAUSE THE EARTH’S CURVATURE BLOCKS THE VIEW OF IT.
Anyone claiming differently is doing so based upon HEARSAY, because anyone that has actually sailed across an ocean or large expanse of open water (where there is no land in sight) and can observe other ships coming and going under extreme magnification can confirm that no amount of magnification will magically bring the disappeared ship back into view.
Grok is correct in this instance, as its reply matches observable reality. William Moore Jr. is simply repeating what he has heard or seen in a video, which is only evidence of his ignorance.
For any here who may feel that is harsh criticism, please consider that IF William Moore Jr. is supposedly correct, then we should be able to apply the exact same principle on land, to see vast distances.
For example, in the U.S. someone could use a high-powered telescope at elevation in the Rocky Mountains, e.g. near Denver, Colorado (the mile-high city) to look eastward toward the Appalachians (e.g. Beech Mountain, North Carolina, also at an elevation of more than a mile), or vise versa, and at least be able to see the basic shape of the mountains from one mountain range to the other. So why isn’t that possible? BECAUSE THE EARTH’S CURVATURE BLOCKS THAT VIEW.
Mt. Ranier (roughly 14,400 ft) in Washington State (about 60 mi. SE of Seattle) to Mt. McKinley (Denali) in Alaska (about 130 miles NW of Anchorage) would be another unobstructed view of around 1650 miles on a clear day, if it wasn’t for that pesky curvature of the surface of the Earth.
The same idea could also be used to look across the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans hundreds of miles, IF the Earth was allegedly flat. Why is it you can’t see the lights on the eastern seaboard of the U.S. from Bermuda (roughly 800-825 miles away) with a high-powered telescope? BECAUSE THE EARTH’S CURVATURE BLOCKS THAT VIEW.
Why won’t any “flat-earther” bother to conduct this simple experiment on their own? BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP THEIR FLAT EARTH FANTASY.
Please see the list of telescopes priced under $500, at the link below, to aid in that task:
The Earth’s curvature is literally the “elephant in the room” that everyone on Earth gifted with physical sight has been looking at their entire lives.
Stop being “the blind being led by the blind” and start using your God-given common-sense to see the world as it REALLY is: a spherical shaped planet that is again FILLED with violence and corruption.
We all could do something about the violence and corruption. None of us can change the shape of the Earth.
THINK about it.
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Junior - just interested - Seeker7 gave you a link of airline routes that actually exist and the link makes the comparison between these links on a flat earth map and what they look like on a fairytale ball earth map. We dont need to have a major in math (or even be an ‘expert’ on 9/11 hahahah) to see that the flight routes on the fairy ball make no sense (maybe you excluded junior) . If you care to look you can find flight routes which diverted to transfer a passenger who needed emergency medical treatment - they also make no sense unless applied to the flat earth map …some of us have known of this for years but dont go there if you want to keep your bubble intact junior hahahaha
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Junior you are such a sad mess - just forever locked inside the matrix - you still dont seem able to answer my question relating to curvature. I can stand at the waters edge and gaze across to an island 12 miles away. I can use my very high quality binoculars and see very clearly the water meeting the sandy beach on this distant island. Remember junior - we are told by satanic nasa priests how to calculate (non existent) curvature on the (non existent) ball. They tell us that I should have about 100 feet of curvature between my position and the island …. and, try as I might, I see ZERO CURVATURE. where did it go junior- that’s a chunk of curvature that’s hard to lose. Maybe you can use your much vaunted expertise in math an maybe find it hahahaha.
Yep - just like the covid clot shots - they are ALL in it together.
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Please give me evidence to back up your statement …quote, see the world as it REALLY is - a spherical shaped planet ..unquote. Please - no nasa CGI or degrass tyson bullshit - just give me something that proves unequivocally that we inhabit a spinning ball covered largely by curved water - you seem totally secure in your position - we would like to know what it is that makes you so convinced. Surely it cant be that globe earth atlas you kept in your bedroom - or all those nasa fan-boy shirts you wore.
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Thank you! Every time a hidebound fundamentalist develops an existential hatred of me - well, I don’t know if an angel gets its wings or not, but I certainly take it as proof positive that I’m on the right track. 
Stupid people and evil people always seem to be bothered by me, I don’t know what it is. 
But off with you now, Kidkip - off to your great vast Southern Ocean! You’ll be rolling in fish harder than Forrest Gump! If you actually go find out the Earth is flat and there’s a giant unexpected ocean around all Antarctica that’s teeming with fish I’ll be your Lieutenant Dan, buddy! Bring us back a tuna until then! 
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PS: If at any point I genuinely do get too snarky with my critics and am putting people off, let me know.
Continuing to engage with my own trolls and haters long past the point where everyone else gets glassy-eyed and wants to toss us out of the party is definitely one of my own character flaws.
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As A. Freeman noted, there are very few sailors of the modern era, if any at all, who still believe the Earth is flat. 
That is because you can see boats rise into visibility as they come over the horizon, and fall away behind it after you pass them - just as you can in the sequence of photos I posted. You can see them with the naked eye, and even better with specialized lookout equipment, which many modern boats have.
A curved Earth provides an extremely logical, well-tested explanation for this - laser experiments have been done to confirm the curvature of the Earth this way too - whereas I still have yet to hear an explanation for this under flat earth theory.
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Sorry junior - there have been LOTS of laser experiments done which CONFIRM NO CURVATURE …but I’m not aware of a single one which has been done to pretend we inhabit a spinning curved water covered ball hahaha - have you always had this problem - terminal cognitive dissonance ….I’d throw all my chips on that hahaha.
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Here is some curved water for you
512 × 512
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Oh - so now i GET it ….its not the THEORY of gravity (hahaha) that holds all that curved water to the spinning (hahaha) ball ….NO ….wait for it …..its SURFACE TENSION. Quick - phone the satanic priests at Not A Space Agency ….they will likely offer you a job - maybe cleaning the bloodstains off the masonic checker board floor …. hey ya all gotta start somewhere hahaha ….. wow, surface tension - who woulda thought.
No. It’s gravity. Or is gravity now a myth put out by NASA too?
The problem with you, Kidkip, is that you don’t actually cite evidence, theory, or meaningful science on any of your debunks. You just go “Muhuhuhahaha! Fools! You haven’t figured it out!” like a supervillain and then retreat to the ideological safety of your condescension.
I can tell there are a lot of conservative Christians here who distrust modern science, however - and hey, why not, right? the government has lied about everything else, right? - so I am going to stop making myself a pariah. Whether or not the Earth is flat - I really don’t believe it is, as the math just doesn’t work out, but I won’t throw that in anyone’s face over and over except yours, because you keep on condescending here to your debate opponents - is, in the end, relatively tangential to stopping the Mаsonic agenda anyway.
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Indeed - and I looked at them, too!
But they don’t compel on their own because they fail to take into account the notion that there are not many places in the Southern Hemisphere to refuel. Flights routinely go hours and hours off the straightest path between two cities very simply because they can’t make the flight on one fuel tank and the nearest city to the midpoint is hours out of their way.
Quite frankly, some photographic evidence would be nice - of the Antarctic Ice Wall and the supposed military horrors around/behind it, and/or the ancient-alien secrets, or whatever it is you purport exists in Antarctica that the rest of us aren’t supposed to see.
In particular, I have seen ZERO high-altitude shots from the flat-Earth movement.
I don’t even think a lot of flat-Earthers have ever even been on an airplane in the first place. 
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