The Collapse of Christian Zionism & Fragmentation of the Right

I know my prediction streak is spotty but iam glad that my prediction (9 days after Oct 7th) that Christian Zionism would collapse has panned out. The bell tolled for this lie on Oct 7th as it was never going to survive the intense scrutiny & blood-soaked march to Zion. Because Christian Zionism/Dispensationalism & Religious Zionism (in Judaism) are lies that were generated to buttress the “Israel Project”, they are riddled with inconsistencies & contradictions which ultimately will destroy them.

Case in point: We are constantly told; that all Jews have to return to Israel as a fulfillment of prophecy or as a pre-condition for the Messiah’s advent; that “all Israel will be saved” (they cite Romans 11:25) but look at what the “believers” are up to, so busy undermining their own prophecies. Looks like someone forgot that banning/deporting Jews from Israel=stalling the Messiah’s return.

https://x.com/Betar_USA/status/1907778287557832725

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Less than a year into the war

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That’s why they have set up propaganda firm “Show Faith by Works”. They have an alleged purse of $3.4-4.1 million which, among other things, will bring the “10/7” experience to a Church near you via mobile trailers…VR headsets included

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@Scout

Israel’s Foreign ministry can blow its $150M budget on 7k posts and hiring bot farms but none of that is going to work. Once people have re-oriented their ideology or theology, there’s no going back. It all ended that day…the moment Hamas attacked, the dam broke.

I’ll post links on their propaganda in your thread a little later

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the “universal feeling” among these pastors was not concern for peace or justice but anxiety over the disruption of their Holy Land tours.

This from Haaretz might interest you@Karlysymon

https://archive.ph/20251106072241/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2025-11-06/ty-article-magazine/.premium/ai-hasbara-israel-pours-millions-into-influencing-u-s-evangelicals-in-churches-chatgpt/0000019a-540e-db4c-a5fb-dfafea590000#selection-701.0-703.46

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Thanks for the article. When I said “hiring bot farms”, I was referring to that Sludge report but your article just briefly mentioned the contract, which was actually cancelled back in September. That doesn’t mean Israel won’t find someone else to run a bot army, covertly or overtly. It seems the Ha’aretz piece has grabbed peoples’ attention. Syndicated by Disclose.tv & it has 1M views.

Anyway, I maintain the belief that this a futile effort because; imagine Pfizer, Moderna, et al hiring influencers & running bot armies to re-convert all the newly minted antivaxxers, post-pandemic, who have decided that “I’ll never let myself & my family anywhere near a vaccine” (someone did actually say that). The PR efforts wouldn’t work for Big Pharma anymore than they are going to work for Israel. All the people who have woken up to the “Israel Question” cannot unsee or unlearn what has inundated the press & social media in the last 2yrs. So I have real questions about the brains running this campaign….a campaign they ran at the outset of the war (see posts below). It didn’t work then and will not work now. (Sources: ChristianPost, SEMAFOR & Texas Monthly)

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https://x.com/ShibleyTelhami/status/1973016108996395253

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Many people claim that the Tucker-Ted Cruz interview triggered the collapse of Christian Zionism but that isn’t true, as anyone paying attention to this would know. This interview with Curt Mills was way before the one with Ted Cruz and he claimed to notice a questioning in the people he (Tucker) knows and it doesn’t seem to me like those people might be Gen Z. So the shift is across demographics (granted, much older people rarely abandon their long-held beliefs)

(last 5minutes of the interview)

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Countering CUFI (Christians United For Israel)

This is day one of the inaugural Church at the Crossroads conference, designed to heed the call from Christians who want a space that can be an antithesis to, among others, the annual Christians United For Israel (CUFI) conference, which draws thousands of people whose religious priority is the defense of Israel, as they believe that only in protecting it will the second coming of Jesus Christ materialize.

“Do you know what the biggest problem with Christian Zionism is? You cannot find Jesus in it”.

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It was the leaders of Talmudic Judaism (the Sanhedrin) that plotted the murder of Jesus and manipulated the Roman government into carrying out the crucifixion.

How can anyone still be fooled by oxymoronic “Christian Zionism” after 2000 years of these extremely evil people plotting and planning to take over the world so they can exterminate whomever else they want, whenever they feel like it?

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Awesome thread @Karlysymon . This video was recommended for me on YT. It might be elementary to some, but it does emphasize the fact that zionism has NOTHING to do with Jesus (11:37 mins):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQTKb6dh2As

I know Matt Ehret did say in one of his videos, what we’re witnessing globally is the fall of the Khazarian Empire and the rise of the Knight Templars. I haven’t had much time to listen to his podcasts or interviews lately, but what he said what that will look like in years to come, I’m not sure.

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Speaking for myself, I am 100% Anti-Zionist!

It will help plenty to hear & see more push back from Anti-Zionist Jews.

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Thanks! Do you have the link to Ehret’s video where he said that?

The still is from your video. Ofcourse, in 2025, there are pastors still peddling these lies. That’s Jack Hibbs. Has this guy ever read a history book? Empires rise & fall and sucking Israel’s toes won’t arrest imperial decline. It’s garbage like this that is making these people lose any legitimacy that they had left. Besides blaming every tornado, hurricane & earthquake on CONUS on an angry God, if America ever had any blessings to show for “blessing” Israel, the MAGA message wouldn’t resonate with a lot of people, even pastors like Hibbs. Clearly people feel & understand that something’s broken in America. Ironically, “Jewish Hollywood” is actively foreshadowing the breakup of the US, which means that the center of political gravity is to be shifted elsewhere

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Larry Huch, pastor of New Beginnings Church in DFW, is a rockstar in the Christian Zionist Movement. He once remarked, “If we lose Jerusalem—what I believe with all my heart—if we lose Jerusalem, we will delay the coming of the Messiah. That’s why the enemy in the spiritual world [Satan] wants to get rid of Jerusalem. Because whether you think he’s coming for the first time or the second time, what everybody knows is he’s coming to Jerusalem.”

Early on in my time at the Consulate, I was traveling with Consul Daniel Agranov to one of these aforementioned pep rallies for Israel at New Beginnings church that was organized in partnership with the Israel Allies Foundation, a pro-Israel DC-based lobbying outfit. Consul Agranov, Pastor Huch, and Senator Cruz were all scheduled to speak. When riding in the car on the way to the church, I explained the premillennial dispensationalist theology that underpins much evangelical support for Israel to Consul Agranov.

He responded, “These people give me the fucking creeps. What happens when they go back to thinking their God doesn’t like us again?” This was about an hour before he would take the stage and say how grateful he was for Christian support while exclaiming, “Israel prays for peace,” taken from the remarks I wrote. The last I heard, Daniel Agranov is still an Israeli diplomat.

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The Age of GOP Israel worship is over

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I hope that the Christian Zionist prophecy watchers can point me to scripture where these developments are written. Then again, a satanic project always devours itself.

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I’m not sure when he said it, Karly. I thought it was when he was at Maxime Bernier’s PPC Townhall in the Park meeting, but it’s not. I’ll have to look through all his Rumble videos to see which ones I’ve watched and get back to you.

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