Reincarnation is an Irrefutable Fact

Every human is mortal. Every human dies.

Every spiritual-Being (Soul) is immortal, at least until Judgement Day, when all of us are due to be judged. This is why many human+Beings who have experienced the physical death of their body, and been “revived”, report floating above the body they just incarnated, and looking down upon it, as doctors or EMTs work on the body.

The reason that Judgement Day is so important is that we have all been on death row for the past 6000 years, and fate that awaits all unrepentant Souls is The Fire.

The Fire (aka the “second death”) is a fate worse than human death, reducing both the spirit (root) and the flesh (branch) to ashes, exactly as we’ve been warned for thousands of years.

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the “I AM” Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the “I AM” Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the “I AM” (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 above, for details of the curse).

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Sometimes people say in internet forums that they were somebody in a past life, but when we ask them to tell us who they were, and in what country etc, they only give vague answers..:slight_smile:

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2 Corinthians 12:1-4
12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. For I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
12:2 I knew a man in Christ over fourteen years ago, (whether IN the body, I cannot tell; or whether OUT OF the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether IN the body, or OUT of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not possible for a man to utter.

The Scriptures do not support any of these claims

John 5:25-28

Daniel 12

Psalm 146:3-4

Isaiah 26:14

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Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

1 Thessalonians 4

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It matters a great deal because for one, it undermines the Cross….the entire theme of Redemption. The Resurrection loses its meaning and God’s own justice & mercy are called into question, even rendering Him a liar. Second, reincarnation/the belief in the “eternal soul” is main driver of people into Spiritism. Because you believe your loved one isn’t dead, you’ll seek out a medium to conjure up the departed. A sin so grave that God has no tolerance for it (Best example, King Saul: 1Samuel 28, 1 Chronicles 10:13) and when it comes to psychological warfare, the military-intelligence complex loves to play this card, so yeah, your life depends on what some apparition is instructing you to do.

Deep down, we all know the reality of the situation but embrace falsehoods for comfort. Why the old adage that “dead men tell no tales”? Why do people resort to murder to solve their problems if infact the dead person is just going to live on anyway. Have any of you people ever exacted vengeance for crimes against your persons in the 5th century? If we allegedly have memories of our past lives, surely you’d be able to sniff out an adversary from a past life and rain down retribution.

As I mentioned in my 1st post in this thread, late last year and early this year this topic & it appendages were trending and this guy (who says he is a Freemason) posted this tweet. At that time, The New Jersey drones story was still raging, the Telepathy Tapes were trending and the Shawn Ryan show was hosting guys involved in the Gateway Process. It became clear to me that the System was getting ready to play. A psyop in this regard wouldn’t be a cake-walk because it plays on people’s deepest fears or sensibilities.

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Of course the exact opposite is true. Awaken from the “dead” and learn to read the Scriptures with SPIRITUAL eyes (NOT human eyes), as Christ COMMANDS (John 3:3-7).

Who are the “dead” according to Christ? They are those who are under a death sentence for treason, and thus have no hope of salvation.

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the “Dead” (those under God’s death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

It should be self-evident that physically dead people cannot physically bury other dead people.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

What is “the dust of the earth” according to God?

Genesis 13:14-16

13:14 And the “I AM” said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
13:15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
13:16 And I will make thy seed as “the dust of the earth”: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, [then] shall thy seed also be numbered.

Genesis 28:13-14

28:13 And, behold, the “I AM” stood above it, and said, I [am] the “I AM” God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
28:14 And thy seed shall be as “the dust of the earth”, and thou shalt spread abroad to the West, and to the East, and to the North, and to the South: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

The “son of man” is a human. All humans are mortal and perish.

The wicked are already the walking “dead”, living out their pathetic human existence with no hope of salvation.

Revelation 20:12-15

20:12 And I saw the “Dead”, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the “Dead” were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the “sea” (Isa. 17:12-13) gave up the “Dead” which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the “Lake of Fire”. This is the second death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the “Lake of Fire”.

John 11:25-26

11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the Life: he that believeth me, though he were “Dead” (under God’s death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Matt. 8:22; Luke 9:55), yet shall he Live (be pardoned):
11:26 And whosoever Liveth and believeth me shall NEVER die. Believest thou this?

Ephesians 5:14 Wherefore He saith, AWAKE THOU THAT SLEEPEST, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee Light.

Anyone who is still spiritually asleep is among the walking “dead”.

It’s time to wake-up. The Sleeper (the slumbering spirit-Being within) MUST awaken.

Reincarnation, which Christ teaches, clearly does NOT undermine the cross in any way. Anyone who disregards Christ’s TRUE Teachings, found in the Gospel accounts and NOT in the satanic churches with their satanic priests, pastors, etc. is making a mockery of His Sacrifice.

Jesus was literally raised from the dead so that even the hardest hearts and stiffest necks could finally see THE TRUTH: THAT THERE IS SPIRITUAL LIFE AFTER HUMAN DEATH.

Of course the exact opposite is true. Anyone who foolishly argues against reincarnation is promoting the LIE that God is unjust and unfair.

As previously posted: How else, other than through reincarnation, can the disparities in physical ailments, ethnic backgrounds, living conditions, financial means, and exposure to vastly different levels of love, care, resources and understanding be explained? Some humans die as infants or children, while others live 100 years. There are two (and only two) human genders which are likewise NOT EQUAL (Gen. 3:16, 1 Cor. 11:3, 1 Cor. 11:7-9, 1 Cor. 14:34-35, Eph. 5:22-29, 1 Tim. 2:11-15, Titus 2:4-5, 1 Peter 3:1-6). So how are all of these differences explained, if we only live one human life? Is God not just and fair in ALL things?

Who taught you this nonsense? If someone is reincarnated into a NEW body, with a NEW name, and has no memory of their previous incarnation, how could they be contacted by some medium?

Using mediums is against The Law, which Christ plainly stated would NEVER go away (Matt. 5:17-20).

Deuteronomy 18:10-13
18:10 There shall NOT be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch (pharmacist - Gal. 5:19-21),
18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer (medium).
18:12 For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the “I AM”: and because of these abominations the “I AM” thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the “I AM” thy God (Matt. 5:48).

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Just how critically important is it that someone understand reincarnation?

Without understanding that Christ is a SPIRITUAL-BEING, just as God is a SPIRITUAL-BEING (John 4:24), how would one recognize Christ during His Second Coming?

Christ is prophesied to return in a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim (Gen. 49:10; 22-24), with a NEW NAME (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12).

Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah [to Joseph], nor a law-giver from between his feet, UNTIL Shiloh comes [from Joseph-Ephraim v 22-24]; and unto him [shall] the gathering of the people [be].

Genesis 49:22-24

49:22 Joseph [is] a fruitful bough, [even] a fruitful bough by a well; [whose] branches run over the wall:
49:23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot [at him], and hated him:
49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty [God] of Jacob; (from THERE [is] The Shepherd, The [Corner] Stone of Israel:)(1 Cor. 10:4; Daniel 2:34-5; 45)

Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the communities; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden Manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a NEW name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it].

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in The Temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my NEW name.

Revelation 19:12 His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a NAME written, that NO man knew, but HE himself (ch. 2:17; 3:12).

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For what it’s worth, and that’s quite priceless, well at least to me, Jesus was not crucified according to Muslims.

According to the Koran, a “stunt man” stood in for Jesus on the cross..:slight_smile:

The Egg by Andy Weir

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You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly
remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a
wife and two children. It was a painless death.
The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail.
Your body was so utterly shattered you were better
off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where
am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in
mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone
dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness.
Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is
this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you God?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died
and your main concern is for your family. That’s good
stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I
didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or
possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure,
maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the
almighty.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids

will remember you as perfect in every way. They
didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife
will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved.
To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any
consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling
relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go
to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said.
“Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the
void. “Where are we going?”

“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to
walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When
I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So
all my experiences and everything I did in this life
won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the
knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You
just don’t remember them right now.”
I stopped walking and took you by the
shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful,
and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human
mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are.
It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see
if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into
the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve
gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years,
so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of
your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for
long enough, you’d start remembering everything.
But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated,
then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different
lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese
peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending
me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it,
only exists in your universe. Things are different
where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from
somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others
like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like
there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I
get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have
interacted with myself at some point.”
“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both
lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even
know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”

“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking
me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little
stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you
persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life,
the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to
mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”

“No, just you. I made this whole universe for
you. With each new life you grow and mature and
become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe,
there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people
on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a
congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said,
“you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness
you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy
and sad moment ever experienced by any human
was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me.
Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind.
You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m
a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still
growing. Once you’ve lived every human life
throughout all time, you will have grown enough to
be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to
move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way.

“The Egg” - Andy Weir

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Which means you don’t believe in it. Your choice. Fair enough. :slight_smile:

There are deceitful arguments made, frequently by “Muslims” (i.e. adherents to the sects of “Islam”), foolishly attempting to negate the Christ’s Sacrifice on the cross. And in doing so, they expose their ignorance of Scripture, including their ignorance of the Koran/Quran,

Sura 4:157-159 (King of kings’ Bible)
4:157. That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ the son of Mary, the Messenger of God”;- but they killed Christ NOT, nor crucified Christ, but so it was made to appear to them (as they crucified the human body called Jesus, that Christ the spirit-being used - Psalm 22; Isaiah 52:13 to 54:1; Zechariah 11:10-13; Matthew 27), and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) Knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed Christ not:-
4:158. Nay, God raised him up unto Himself and God is Exalted in Power, and in Wisdom;-
4:159. And, of the People of The Book, they all must believe him (Christ) before their death; and on The Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them (and you) (Surah 43:61);

Christ IS the Son of God (an immortal spiritual-Being that CANNOT be killed, except by God Himself).

Jesus WAS the son of the virgin Mary (a mortal human that very obviously could be killed and was killed, via crucifixion, exactly as it says in the Gospel accounts of Jesus.

If the crucifixion didn’t occur, as “Muslimsfalsely claim, then why did God raise Jesus from the dead in the very next verse (Sura 4:158)?

Further, every one who reads the Koran/Quran is repeatedly COMMANDED to read both The Law (Old Covenant/Testament) AND the Gospel accounts (the New Covenant/Testament) and to NOT BE IN DOUBT of their veracity.

Suras 2:53, 2:87-93, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:54, 5:46-50, 6:91-92, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 11:17, 15:9-10, 17:2-4, 21:48, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6, 78:2

And again, a few verses from the Koran/Quran teaching reincarnation, which “Muslims” (infidels really) foolishly reject, just as they reject The Messiah/Christ, aka The Messenger/Word of God.

Sura 2:28. How can ye reject the faith in God?- seeing that ye were without life, and He gave you life; then will He cause you to die, and will again bring you to life; and again to Him will ye return.

Sura 2:53-56
2:53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong [The Torah]): there was a chance for you to be guided aright.
2:54. And remember Moses said to his people: “O my people! Ye have indeed wronged yourselves by your worship of the calf: so turn (in repentance) to your Maker, and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sight of your Maker.” Then He turned towards you (in forgiveness): for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
2:55. And remember ye said: “O Moses! We shall never believe in thee until we see God manifestly,” but ye were dazed with thunder and lighting even as ye looked on.
2:56. Then We raised you up after your death (re-incarnation): ye had the opportunity to be grateful.

Blah blah blah.

Man you twist and turn and keep on at walls and walls of scripture without really grasping the simplicity of it all.

Whatever, that’s your call.

The Almighty Holds Power over all perceptions and that too at all times. Go figure.

For what it’s worth:

AI Overview

In the New Testament of the Bible,

Jesus Christ, whom the scriptures describe as a “friend” of Lazarus, raises Lazarus from the dead. This miracle is recounted in detail in the Gospel of John, Chapter 11.

Citing the Glorious Qur’an:

  • Surah Aal-i-Imraan (3:49): In this verse, Jesus addresses the Children of Israel, stating that he will perform miracles such as making a bird from clay that becomes real, healing the blind and the leper, and raising the dead, all by Allah’s Will.

  • Surah Al-Ma’idah (5:110): This verse mentions Allah reminding Jesus of His favor and how Jesus healed the blind and lepers and brought the dead to life by Allah’s Will.

And if there’s the good version, here’s the bad version of Jesus:

AI Overview

Yes, according to Islamic tradition, the Dajjal (Antichrist) will perform false miracles, including seemingly reviving the dead, to deceive people into believing he is God

, although this is often described as the work of demons or illusions, with one specific instance of him killing and reviving a man being a test of faith. He will present himself as a divine figure, making people doubt true faith through these powerful deceptions, such as bringing down rain, causing vegetation to grow, and performing acts resembling Jesus’ miracles.

This thread is about reincarnation.

It’s amazing how someone can be so blind as to quote from the Koran/Quran, which was sent to CONFIRM both the Old Covenant/Testament and the New Covenant/Testament, and then satanically try to promote LIES about the eldest/firstborn (firstcreated) spiritual Son of God/Allah (Christ), and the human son of Mary (Jesus), whom Christ incarnated 2000 years ago.

Here is the simplicity from the Quran on such ignorance:

Sura 3:55. Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, to The Day of Resurrection: then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

Man, do not quote the Qur’an since you do NOT believe in its commands (nor do you abide by them), notably:

Chapter 112

Say: God Is One

God Is Absolute, Beyond

He never begot, nor was He ever begotten

And there’s nothing that remotely compares to Him

And here is what the Koran/Quran says about Christ’s Second Coming in a new body with a new name:

Sura 43:57-65
43:57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
43:58. And they say, “Are our gods best, or he?” This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people.
43:59. He was no more than a servant (“I came not to do mine own will, but the Will of Him that sent me” - John 6:38): We granted Our favour (Christ) to him (Sura 4:171), and We made him the Example to the Children of Israel (John 14:6).
43:60. And if it were Our Will, We could make angels from amongst you, succeeding each other on the Earth.
43:61. And (Christ the Mahdi) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) The Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about The (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is The Straight Way (John 14:6).
43:62. Let not the Evil One hinder you: for he is to you an enemy avowed.
43:63. When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: “Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear “I AM” and obey me.
43:64. For “I AM”, He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him (Matthew 5:48): this is The Straight Way (Matthew 7:13-14).”
43:65. But sects (Sura 6:159) from among themselves fell into disagreement: then woe to the wrong-doers, because of the Penalty of a Grievous Day!