Muslims say Jesus was not the Son of God, so I’d say their chances are zilch..
Jesus said -“..whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God” (John 11:26/27)
That’s not a denial, but an enquiry. Back to the drawing board, mate!
This has gotten into a religious debate that I didn’t intend
Well, as someone who has shared the Marcionist / Valentinian perspective on VC since 2011, I can confidently say that the majority of members historically have not been Gnostic, have been mostly critical, indifferent or plain antagonistic to it.
Kind of reminds me of Saruman of many colours - some people are aware, see the darkness… then choose it!
The darkness being …
Yaldabaoth, his other forms, and his archons claim to have created matter, the physical plane, this Earth, the solar system (the planets are occult deities as described in the Roman religion, and in Hindu astrology), his own legion of archons (and the greys work for Yaldabaoth too), as described in the Gnostic texts.
Archons and greys are involved in trying to trick you into reincarnation, and an archon is tasked to guard the astral firmament. God’s kingdoms are above this astral firmament.
Yaldabaoth’s world and universe he created are known as the Lower Hebdomads, and God’s kingdoms are known as the Upper Hebdomads.
I was told by an anonymous source that the Annunaki (Yaldabaoth is Anu) have worn out their bodies and have somehow acquired reptilian bodies, or are reptilians.
Yaldabaoth is the demiurge, and the defining feat of the demiurge is that he divided Heaven and Earth, the primordial union. In Mesopotamian myth, it’s Enlil who divides An and Ki, so Enlil would be the Yaldabaoth equivalent.
You can draw this parallel to almost all mythologies of the world:
El (= Enlil) from the Bible also divides Heaven and Earth. The Hebrew of Genesis 1:1 interpreted correctly actually says so explicitly (see Ellen Van Wolde).
The Jews killed Jesus so they’ll certainly be going up the spout along with catholics and most other denominations and cults for twisting Jesus’s message..:)-
Is Gnosticim a religion or just another godless belief system?
Yeah, I know that “anonymous source”. His name is David Icke. He claims to be fighting against the “elite” but he propagates the same type of Gnosticism most of them believe in - just that he makes it sound even more ridicilous, claiming the earth is flat, Jews would be the demonic archons, the earth is flat and we live in a matrix with it’s server being the rings of Saturn (they would be a giant floppy disk).
Oh, and of course most politicians would be reptilians. But I am starting to think; what if he is the reptilian? 
Oh no, Gnostics are not atheists. Most of them actually hate atheists and consider them stupid and ignorant. Gnostics are VERY spiritual and actually as spiritual as you can get cause they believe in ONLY the spirit (or what Hegel called Geist = mind and spirit).
They also very much believe in the divine and in god(s). They even believe in the Jewish god Jehovah, just that they demonize him. But they do certainly believe he exists and is the creator of the material world.
They also believe in a higher god - a kinda ultimate source god that they do regard as good but ultimately regard as either not personified or as having been personified as them themselves. So, not all, but SOME regard themselves as the ultimate god and therefore think they can ultimately “do as thou wilt” as Aleister Crowley put it.
“The darkness being….?”
…a bit like “a woman being?”
to those who know it is clear, to those for whom the members of the cast have been turned round with the Gnostic narrative, a little more difficult to difine.
Yet I don’t see you define it. Odd.
I noticed you were on Lloyd De Jongh’s podcast, which is great. But if you’re there to talk about Gnosticism, I implore you to rectify this popular misconception that Gnostics believe Yahweh is the Creator God. That’s false.
Yahweh is not the Demiurge. El is the Demiurge. El and Yahweh are two separate deities. Gnostics understood this and it has now been proven by the academic world.
He is not associated with Evil. One of his sons is, the fallen angel, the “LORD”, the Prince of this World. That is not El, but Ba’al. The Kenite-Hebrew Ba’al is Yahweh.
Another popular misconception of Gnosticism is that it’s dualist. It is not dualist, but tripartite. The dualism refers to the material universe and is considered a trap that one has to escape from. The tripartition is present throughout the whole Gnostic system:
This is inference from neo-Gnosticism which is not Christian Gnosticism. It’s a perversion caused by the mixture with Kabbalah, hermeticism, alchemy and other occultic esoteric teachings.
If one wants to understand Gnosticism as it was originally and authentically, the best thing one could do is to stop reading the Blavatskys, Pikes and Crowleys of this world as representatives of Gnosticism (they’re fundamentally the opposite), and just go read the Christian scriptures, apocrypha included, and study the Valentinian perspective.
I always reiterate that Gnosticism is an umbrella term. I am not against Gnosticism in a broad sense nor am I against all the various Gnostic sects that can be very specific and diverse. But there are some specific aspects I am critical of - mainly the Sethian sect of Gnosticism and it’s mainly that sect that I am referring to when I sound critical of Gnosticism (rather than the Valentinians which are a bit more moderate). So if you belong to a different sect that believes something else - good for you.
Other than being more mythological and antagonistic towards the demiurge, there’s nothing really incompatible between Sethian and Valentinian Gnosticism, who were more reconciliatory to the orthodox framework, or other gnosticisms.
There are some Ophite sects that would go as far as considering the serpent in the garden as a positive principle, but other than that, the different Gnostic sects of early Christianity were perfectly compatible in their teachings.
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