At what stage of fame do they enter "the club"?

This is a topic I often wonder, because what they do is so sick that they obviously can’t let everyone know about it, what level does a potential famous person need to get to, before they are given a look in to their seedy underworld?

So for example, this is a Scottish rapper who was in a rap duo that pretended to be American like 2 decades ago, I am in the UK and don’t remember them at all, but he details how he ended up in one of these horrific parties in the clip below:

His rap group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silibil_N’_Brains

For this guy it sounds like he stumbled upon this party by accident, and a friend he had in the industry unwittingly got confused and thought he knew that this guy was in on it, and accidentally sort of invited him. So I guess he didn’t have his invite officially, and hadn’t reached that level.

But here’s a Californian singer called Banks, who had some success with her first album in 2014, and since then it’s actually hard to see how she still has any notoriety for the “elites” to bother worrying about her influence and symbolism she sends out to the masses, because frankly, the masses aren’t seeing it. Like this:

Obviously Black Goo symbolism, but, 722,000 views? And she continues to show symbolism, one of her bigger promotions was her song and video The Devil, as well as various instagram posts such as:

But they have such small reach. I know there’s various examples of people getting more famous after presenting different symbolism, or even a potential sacrifice like a close loved one dying, but in the case of Banks we had a singer whose career has gradually declined, as she ramped up the symbolism. Is the symbolism more and more necessary to ensure she has any sort of a career at all? Is it similar to the Masons agreement, that upon taking their oath, you are assured of financial security?

Or look at a newer up and coming English singer like Rose Gray, but still far from well known (although she did a song with Kesha recently, but with tiny views and it seems like Kesha’s career is completely over), what on earth is this song about, if you listen to the lyrics:

We’ve seen too much throughout history? Don’t use selective memory, “call the pigs call the pigs while I hold you by the wrist, are you sure are you ready for the burning… your answer is concerning”

I’m not too familiar with whether this singer has symbolism and everything, but this is an incredibly odd song, and when asked about it she just vaguely said how the false the fame industry seems to be, and how she found it underwhelming. Her partner is a fairly famous actor by the way (more famous than her anyway) called Harris Dickinson, she’s been with him since they were in school so she would have been with him through his profile rising, so she would have been around all the parties.

If you look at her older videos (just go on the same youtube channel above, go to videos and click Oldest) she was very different 5 years ago, more focused on the techno elements of music and singing was secondary, definitely not as sexualised.

So anyway, sorry if this post bounced around a bit, but just painting a picture of the different levels of fame, because it’s very easy to look at Lady Gaga or gigantic names with their symbolism and it makes sense if it reaches large audiences, but I wonder, at what point does it start? Or in the case of the singer Banks, how does it continue?

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@spotless I love your question and have wondered the same. Hopefully someone has more insight.

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Great question!

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It depends. Mel Gibson didn’t have any photos with a masonic black eye until he killed his career. If he wanted to get back in he had to join. And then there are some people who just raised in it so it starts at day 1.

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It’s not just actors and musicians these days. They go after social media influencers now. So I guess it’s when you start to amass a following.

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it all depends if the Children/Peoples are born into generational families,they’re in it at birth they dont get a choice

there are some who are discovered, if they have enough influence and are somewhat talented or a good enough actor to pretend. they will be slowly leveled up in the club and given even more status specially in music

as long as the Peoples can be the image tptb need the rest can be done with other Peoples

its not the day Ya meet they ask “oh by the way we have this secret club”and proceed to tell all the depraved detail to them and ask them to join

its a courtship of sorts,they’ll send Peoples to infiltrate Your life,feel Ya out and start a grooming process to See how far You’re willing to go for what Ya want

then there is the darker side where they send someone to infiltrate to get Ya drugged and drunk,then they will orchestrate a blackmail item that they can now own Ya with

there is also orphans who have no protection they’re taken into the belly of the beast abused,used to help in the grooming of other Children

then like above sometimes Ya just stumble into it and idk how they would handle the situation.i suppose it would depend how much of the secrets got exposed

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