Should we feel sorry for them?

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This thought crosses my mind more when it comes to the likes of Britney Spears, maybe because certain types just seem more vulnerable, obviously moreso young females compared to 30 year old males.

But if these people are basically programmed from a young age (by the way Jake Paul was also a Disney kid, he didn’t pop up as a random youtuber kid, he was in the entertainment industry for sure) and I naturally want to give them shit for doing satanic stuff, doing their stupid symbols and being lame, that also goes for Nicki Minaj and various other people who push these satanic, slutty agenda’s.

But at the same time it kinda makes no sense, because I think it’s plausible these people are completely mind controlled, we aren’t even looking at real people, it’s possible they never even had a choice.

Somehow they had a certain talent or type of personality that some elites saw as marketable, and a good platform to push agenda’s on the masses (while making money of course, but that’s more the focus of middlemen and not those at the top) do they even have to sign the contract? Are they just chosen, misled, drugged, and from there on in it’s not like they can exit.

If they do try and exit, maybe that’s what happened to Kanye West, possibly they are just taken out and replaced by a clone. Or in many cases like Mac Miller, just taken out, end of story.

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I thought about it too. On the one hand, I agree: many of them got lured into this long before they could make an informed decision. So it’s really hard to blame them.
On the other hand, as a Christian I know that God is just and when someone endures suffering there’s a reason for it, although to us the situation may seem very unjust. We are limited and can never see the whole picture the way God does.

I’m reminded of a video a saw from back in the days, when Mtv would ask people on the street how they felt about this or that celebrity, and then show the celebrity the footage with people’s responses. They did it with Britney and many people in the video were talking about how what she does as an artist is inappropriate and that she sets a bad example for girls and young women. You can see she clearly was uncomfortable but she didn’t have a substantive response and just kept repeating «I’m not their parent,I’m not their parent» (referring to the girls whose minds and souls she corrupts with her «art»). But she wasn’t confused or surprised, which means that on some level she knew they were right. She was just trying to shift the blame.

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Either way, I think it’s natural to feel sorry for them. I am reminded of that voice message Cardi b posted on her twitter account (it was swiftly deleted) where she was crying and saying she didn’t want to do the drill songs anymore and wanted to be «a good person» and «a mom». I feel very, very sad when I think about it. Her voice was very sad, she wasn’t being dramatic, she sounded broken and scared. It’s especially telling how she said she wanted to be a good person - which obviously means she understands that what she’s doing as a performer makes her a bad person. She admits that bad people do these things. And she doesn’t want to be one. Listening to this voice message and knowing she will most likely never escape - how can we not feel sorry for her?

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I feel sorry for the Children they once were that had to go through the abuse,trauma etc..as they Truly didn’t have a choice

however once grown there are options for them

do like others have done tell the Truth regardless of the repercussions it may cost to Your career or status

unfortunately yes that means the possibility of giving Your life as a cost,it is better than living under someone else’s boot doing things that go against everything Ya Believe or being punished if Ya don’t

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This is what I’m wondering though, is there even an option? If they are under such mind control from such an early age, and are basically walking drones, drugged and under MK Ultra, with a dissociative personality, if that’s the case for so many years, in the case of Britney Spears maybe from a very young age right through to adulthood, what personality is even left behind the mind control?

Maybe if she actually did break free from it and chose the way out, that’s what caused a complete breakdown and for her to go absolutely crazy.

I mean, if you’re under complete mind control, same as being in a trance or under hypnosis, do you come to any conclusions on your own? Do they even have a moral framework? Genuine questions because I don’t really know how it works.

This somewhat relates to another topic I was thinking of making and might still make some time, but Vigilant Citizen has covered Sabrina Carpenter a few times at least, how some of her videos display that she’s under MK Ultra mind control, has a dissociated and fragmented personality etc

However, I’ve seen some of her interviews and stuff, and she seems absolutely fine, actually quite witty and funny. I hate to say this because I hate the degeneracy she spreads, but watching her interact and talk with even interviewers, she seems like a kind, considerate person.

So, how does that work? How can she be walking around and interacting with people all the time, while also having a fragmented mind and being under control at the same time. I’ve thought the same thing about Britney, these famous people interact with dozens of people daily, do public speaking, televised interviews etc, how do they not show their craziness more often?

And Britney did once in that Diana Sawyers video:

So I’m not exactly sure how it works, but I find it interesting that these people can literally have their minds under control, but also just be walking around talking to various people working with them, fans etc. I presume they at least go back to their families when not working, and I would guess their families have no idea?

I’m just trying to make sense of it myself. Maybe I could ask VC some time in that question thread.

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My reply previously also applies to your post on Britney, I am wondering if when they’re under mind control, if they ever have any free thought, including your example of her feeling guilt. I dunno it’s hard to explain.

That’s very interesting about Cardi B, I had never heard of this, I’m gonna try find it

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If you search «Cardi B says her songs activate demons», you will find some YouTube videos where they play the voice message.

As for the other points, I completely agree: they do often appear normal in many interviews. I’m not sure how this works. Maybe the explantation is that the programming changes their mental state very slowly and subtly so they don’t even realize what is happening to them. So they think of themselves as normal, and so do many of the people around them.

As for the family, I think that those in charge of the programming are careful to choose victims who either don’t have a family or a close circle of friends (like Marylin Monroe) or whose family is willing to play along. But this is where it seems to me the situation is very different for different celebrities.

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An interesting example in that regard is Alicia Keys. She’s been in the industry for more then two decades and she seems to be doing great. No signs of programming, or possession, she is always so positive, has a big family, her kids are normal, not weird, not trans or anything like that.
The more I think about it the more I feel like her mother probably played a big role in this. She wasn’t very much in favor of Alicia going into music making, wanted her to have a normal regular job. As Alicia describes it, her mum is loving but also a very tough lady. She was raising her daughter in New York in the 80s, in a poor neighborhood and went out of her way to make sure Alicia wouldn’t end up in bad company. They have a very close relationship with each other. I think industry people avoid situations like that where they know the family will fight for the victim.

But this is all speculation. By the end of the day, I don’t really know how this works either.

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This is a very thoughtful question posed in this thread. I think the more you learn about this stuff, the mind control and the dissociation and everything else, it’s hard not to feel bad for these people. When you see the way Britney Spears is acting now, when you see how bizarre Ariana Grande is these days, it’s hard not to feel compassion for them because they are clearly not well and not right.

I have never felt sorry for people like Beyoncé, Jay Z, Cardi B, etc., who I believe chose to offer their souls and worship to Satan in return for fame and fortune. Actually, I’d say that my attitude towards them has usually been (ashamedly) a bit self-righteous. Isaiah Saldivar (he’s a deliverance minister) did a reaction video of Cardi B’s voice memos (which were very sad, but admittedly, I kept thinking “well, she chose this, what did she expect?”) and at the end he very compassionately said he was trying to reach out to Cardi B to tell her about deliverance and the gospel and he told his audience to pray for her. I was convicted because feeling sorry for her or praying for her to find the Lord and be delivered from all of this evil was not at all on my mind. And yet I know that all who call upon the Lord and submit to His lordship can be saved, even those who seem way too far gone. I often wonder though, based on Jesus’s own words in the Gospels, if people like Beyoncé and Jay Z and Cardi B and Justin Bieber and all the rest, could ever walk away from the fame and fortune. Matthew 19:24 — “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go into the kingdom of heaven.”

Ultimately, yes, I think the more you know, it’s hard not to feel sorry for them, especially the ones who were victims at a young age and the adults in their life failed to protect them.

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That’s interesting about Alicia Keys, I would say that I am pretty sure I’ve seen examples of her being involved in symbolism, I don’t want to say I’m certain but I think so because I did find it intriguing that she’s hugely successful over a very long period of time, collaborates with people like Jay Z, yet her name doesn’t come up negatively in these circles much.

I’m not saying this to disprove what you’re saying, I think it’s even possible that at different points of people’s careers they can be “caught” doing the one eye symbol for example, but they may not be aware of what they’re doing (photoshoots can potentially be a lengthy process, they can be asked to do dozens of different poses, and the one eye can be the one they’re asked for unwittingly and not even know)

But I’ve never been one to say that they’re ALL in on it, and all equally just as bad and the same. I think there’s levels, I think some are leaders and some are pawns.

I would say that the impression I’m getting is that the system is being set up more and more so that to reach a certain level of fame, it’s almost impossible without basically selling your soul. So 20 or 25 years ago when Alicia Keys broke out and became famous, I think potentially it was fairly common for this to happen organically.

Now I think powerful people continue to have more of a grip on basically everything, which is why we see everything becoming monopolized, and when that happens it means it becomes harder and harder to break in to being a success without having to appease the very powerful people who want to spread very demonic messages.

Now you can basically look at any recent pop star, rapper, even famous actors, and you don’t even have to do much digging to see the symbols, poses, humiliation rituals on a regular basis, it’s never been more of a requirement, and it’s never been more in our face.

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Just a thought that I see thrown out there sometimes, which contradicts what I wrote in my previous post about how I don’t think they’re ALL in on it, but it is a thought I explore:

The idea is that none of them ever had a choice, from a very young age they were always groomed to be in servitude, and they have been chosen because of their bloodlines. A specific case that makes me think there may be something to this, is the footballer Yamal Lamine, who at only 16 years old broke out as one of the best footballers of a generation, and here he is being baptised by the current greatest of all time (who is almost now retired and out to pasture in a weaker football team) Lionel Messi:

I mean, that’s quite a coincidence. I still don’t fully buy in to it all, especially when it comes to sport stars because obviously being a top talent in a sport that millions of people try to excel in, it feels too random, but the best explanation I’ve seen was that a lot of these kids from a young age are scouted by illuminati types, and their parents are aware of the agenda’s that they will push in to adulthood as a sport star. They can also be of the desired bloodline too.

That also feels far fetched, but it’s a very confusing topic either way.

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Who is this dimtri legrand guy? I see him reposted often. He always speaks with authority but how is he so certain about these things/ how does he know hat he knows?

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Thanks for bringing that up actually because to clarify, I find Legrand’s short videos on twitter interesting, but I don’t know who he is and I don’t exactly vouch for him, and I’ve wondered the same thing as you, he seems very certain on everything he says and some of them are reaching.

One of his short videos recently (or at least I saw it recently) on indoctrinating children included themes of furries, as in the adults who dress up as animals or maybe some cosplay thing from cartoons, and it’s in a sexual way, I think that was something that just got perverted by adults but he had it backwards. And dressing kids up as bluey is not some perverted satanic sacrifice of children (yes it was something along those lines)

I think I went to his website to see about his 5 hour documentary but it was actually very expensive.

Edit: His 5 hour series actually isn’t that expensive, 49 euro for 4 hours is fine, but I’m not convinced to get it.

And here’s the tweet about furries:

OK there’s no point in reaching, it makes all of your arguments look stupid, and a cartoon where an animal says “Let’s embrace our differences” is not “let’s all be gay and sexual animal perverts”, there has to be better evidence than that. He at least acknowledges that it’s subtle.