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Have you guys seen SHINee Taemin’s recent “Veil” tour concert that recently happened in Japan? And have you guys heard about his “Coachella” debut? What are your thoughts on his recent "Veil” tour concert and “Coachella” debut?
Very satanic, and simbolysms are very obvious
VC forums barely up again and Ta3m1n is back with satanic stuff right away lol
I remember how the old thread basically started after JH death and a lot of it was about SHIN33 and him. Kpop has never been the same after all these ‘‘su1c1d3s’’ .
Speaking of, it’s kind of giving this from X-Inspiration concert, except that this obviously has a huge X instead of the cross and so he’s quite literally depicted as a ‘target’ to be dealt with. The infamous unreleased Inspiration MV also has him standing in front of the X painted on the wall as split seconds later he disappears = he’s no longer(?) Oh and the cover art for it is the same shot but in red.
I also wanted to post this earlier but couldn’t make it in time before the old VC forums got taken down. This is from the same concert photobook that was released on August 31st 2017, so months before he actually passed. Is it just me or does the phrasing of it sounds like they’re talking about a d3@d person? If so, just another one of dozen predictive programming clues I guess, but it’s one I haven’t seen mentioned before.
And this is one of the comments under the Aurora VCR fancam, from someone I assume attended the concert. There’s another fancam of RED and indeed you can see two masked guys (as in the MV) taking him off stage. Like bruh…
Hello, glad to see you back on the VC forum.
I too remember how the old thread originally started after J0nghyun’s death and there were a lot of discussions about him and other $HINee members as I was on the old forum with the same username and I had discussions about them there.
When I saw the cross at T@emin’s concert, it immediately reminded me of J0nghyun’s X-Inspiration concert but it didn’t surprise me at all. Because T@emin and other $HINee members’s love to use J0nghyun to their own benefits, copying his concepts and making what was his their own. Whether it’s wearing J0nghyun’s shirt or making the title track Poet | Artist of J0nghyun’s last album a group song for their own benefit and to stay relevant as a group.
I don’t like T@emin much from the beginning and I have said this on old forum also, nor do I like to pay much attention to any of his activities. But a few things about T@emin’s Veil concert caught my attention, which I couldn’t ignore even if I wanted to and thought of discussing about his concert here and also discussing about his Coachella debut. Plus, about his India concert debut in November.
https://x.com/isSHINeeback/status/1966862892286038523?t=jIa_q3zjavW3FRlMaGBF4Q&s=19
https://x.com/isSHINeeback/status/1966860429738774994?t=jB8nQeIpMAWcWr0l7NpKkQ&s=19
The phrase indeed makes it sound like they’re talking about a dead person.
I was looking into the details, patterns of suspicious deaths of some celebrities and the scandals/allegations they were involved in before their deaths and while looking, I came to know that whenever the industry/some elites want to destroy a celebrity’s career/life or want to throw them out of the industry or when they want to murder them or want to do something bad to them, then many suspicious things happen around them. Plus, celebrities are sidelined and opportunities are taken away from them.
Celebrities are shown being kidnapped, dying/murdered or they being attacked by someone or some people through their MVs/VCRs, concerts or movies/shows. Celebrities are framed in false scandals/allegations, they are given certain medicines mixed in their tea, coffee, water or food to prove that they are depressed/bipolar, certain people are planted in their lives who pave the way for their murder or push some narratives later on. Like N!ne9 had posted J0nghyun’s so-called fake/typed suicide letter. All of this is like a warning to celebrities (what we call predictive programming) about what could happen to them if they don’t remain silent, if they don’t do what they’re asked to do/obey orders or if they try to get out of the grip.
J0nghyun was rebellious and often didn’t run according to $M which gradually started causing problems for him.
Problems arise for celebrities when they can no longer be controlled or they don’t conform to the industry, especially when the industry is against them + when they have pissed some certain elites/industry or refuse to dance to the industry’s tune/obey orders or when they don’t run according to the industry or some certain elites or when they aren’t puppets or when they don’t please the elites or refuse to please the elites or when their work, success and popularity has become a thorn for some certain elites and their puppets or when they are doing well in their careers without the blessings of anyone in the industry.
In 2016 and 2017, J0nghyun was sidelined/ignored/restricted by $M, his center position was reassigned, his lines and screen time were minimized, his presence on stage and in MVs faded/reduced, his X-Inspiration concert DVDs weren’t released, his Inspiration MV was blocked, he was given a couple of club shows, he/his albums were being promoted much less than T@emin, group’s activities were happening without him (which he also mentioned it), he was forced to leave his beloved radio show, he was reportedly told he was “too old”. He was given a jacket printed with Kurt C0bain’s fake suicide letter to wear during a concert, $H!Nee4 were avoiding him during the $MT0WN 2017 concert and taking pictures as OT4 on stage without him, he was forced to undergo facial surgery once again, he wasn’t even given the chance to finish recording his album and his song was taken away from him to give $H!Nee4 popularity/spotlight.
Celebrities are mostly murdered when they know something they shouldn’t know about, have evidence related to it and dare to expose it and then their murders are conveniently labeled suicide “due to depression or allegations” or the murders of celebrities are labeled as “accidents/unknown reason”. An instance of this is the case of $ush@nt $ingh R@jput, Mɘngl0ng Yu, Li@m P@yne and Annɘ Hɘchɘ.
I believe that J0nghyun knew something he shouldn’t have known and he was about to expose it through his thriller novel which led to his murder and that’s why his thriller novel wasn’t mentioned, especially what was written in it. While he sent snippets of his thriller novel to the publisher before his death. But I don’t believe that he was a sacrifice for Kp0p, BT5 or anything.
I wanted to share all this on the old forum because it was meant to be shared there but before I could share that forum had disappeared.
Jonghyun death was a Blood sacrificed
Elimin82 If we look from 2009 to 2017, so there was a evident plan to throw J0nghyun out of the group/$M and even murder him which didn’t succeed until the car accident. Although it became more evident in 2016 and 2017, that’s why I have mention it. J0nghyun was a target since 2009 mainly because he was rebellious, he was a free bird, he didn’t use to run according to $M, he wasn’t under $M’s control, he wasn’t $M’s puppet, he didn’t use to dance to $M’s tunes/obey $M’s orders, he extremely talented, intelligent and different which $M and every industry hates as they only want to control their celebrities, make them their puppets and want their celebrities to dance to their tunes/obey their orders, they don’t want/hate free birds/rebels like J0nghyun.
If M!nho, Kɘy, T@em!n and Onɘw were like J0nghyun then they would have been the target and not J0nghyun and that’s why M!nho and Kɘy are still under $M as soloists/M!nho, Kɘy, T@em!n, Onɘw are under $M as a group.
As for BT5 and T@ɘ, so T@ɘ was asked to make/post that so-called video to propagate the so-called suicide narrative/agenda, BT5 was asked to go to his funeral and got paid for it. Every person associated with the industry knows when what happens in the industry, what happens to which celebrity and when which celebrity is going to be murdered and what narrative/agenda will be propogated after that. A proper script is prepared, celebrities are asked to follow/propogate the script and are paid. All the celebrities are told what role to play and when to play, what video to make or what quote to post on social media before and after the news of the death and what to say and when to say in front of the media. Which celebrity has to attend the funeral and what to say and how much to cry, all this is told through the script. Nothing happens suddenly out of nowhere without the script and this feeds the narrative of suicide, accident and sacrifice in the minds of the audience/public. $ush@nt $ingh R@jput’s case has literally exposed all this.
You might have noticed that there are always similar, excuses, details and patterns behind the suspicious deaths of celebrities (suicide due to depression/bipolar/allegations/scandals, accidental drowning, accidental fall from building, drug/alcohol overdose) which every industry loves to repeat because the industry knows that the industry has been successful for a long time in hiding/suppressing the truth, the actual cause behind many cases, scandals/allegations, suspicious deaths or murders of celebrities, especially in fooling the audience/public. This is why the industry loves to adopt the same excuse/pattern in every suspicious case and scandal that is now gradually getting exposed. Fortunately.
I’m not saying that humans/celebrities and animals aren’t sacrificed or that celebrities don’t die by suicide or accident, it happens 100% but not always. Celebrity deaths aren’t always what the industry/media/police says and shows. Celebrities are also murdered by the industry, especially when they know too much and become a threat.
@Lawol Have you seen L$M’s documentary? The entire purpose of the documentary was to whitewash L$M’s image, glorify his lies, portray him as a great and innocent man (who did so much for Kpop), use J0nghyun (his funeral’s clip) and $ulli’s deaths to garner attention and to prove that L$M had nothing to do with J0nghyun/$ulli’s death.
Although L$M admitted in the documentary that he chose to blacklist JYJ, tried to ruin their careers and treated them as “products”. But he falsely claimed (basically lied) that JYJ’s contract wasn’t a slave contract and claimed that $M still uses the same contract terms to this day. $M’s contract was never 13 years long.
The entire documentary was a revelation of how much desperate he is in order to succeed with his new company A2O.
I just wish HYBE would give opportunities/launch actual talents from their Indian HQ who are worthy of becoming Ipop idols, not so-called talentless nepo products who can’t even act, dance and sing.
i think Bts went at Jonghyun funeral because Big Hit want threatened them like if you guys didn’t follow the rules, you ended up like him
ZZONE’s debut (cignature Jeewon’s solo debut) is none other than the devil concept.
There is tons of serpent imagery and some forbidden fruit imagery.
She seduces a Korean guy who presents himself as the devil, only she turns out to be the devil.
She somehow kills him and immolates him, a burnt offering, and a burnt offering is…
A holocaust. The word holocaust means burnt offering.
His head falls off and she picks up his black charred skull.
Using a skull as a ritual item in the left hand path is called a “fetish”.
This is likely possible as sometimes the industry/agencies intimidate or threaten celebrities/their artists to do certain things or follow certain rules. Celebrities are afraid of the industry because they know what the industry is capable of.
By the way, are you Minnie from the old VC forum?
Hello, glad to see you back on VC forum and amazing analysis as always. If possible, could you please analyze the songs of the Kpop Demon Hunters movie?
Thank you, I’m glad to see you too!
Hunter’s Mantra by Huntr/x Analysis
The song Hunter’s Mantra in Kpop Demon Hunters is about a mantra against a demon.
Mantras are used to gain the favour of and please an entity, can be turned into a prayer, a spell, and to call for an entity’s protection.
The correct spell can be used to also open a gate to spirit realms.
The song description on their fandom wiki states:
https://kpop-demon-hunters.fandom.com/wiki/Prologue_(Hunter’s_Mantra)
Description
“Prologue (Hunter’s Mantra)” is a symphonic song that was inspired by pansori, a Korean genre of musical storytelling. Its lyrics detail the hunters’ duty to seal the Honmoon and restore peace to the world."
It says about Honmoon:
"The Honmoon (혼문, hanja: 魂門 “spirit/soul gate”) is a magical protective layer that prevents Gwi-Ma and his demon forces from entering the human world. For generations, Demon Hunters have been tasked with maintaining it through the power of their songs.
With enough power, the Honmoon can become golden and, as a result, be strong enough to seal away the Demon Realm permanently. What it will do to those who are half-demon once given enough power is unknown."
It also implies that half-demon Rumi has the risk of death or injury if things become golden.
I know this as I’ve seen the movie and also read VC’s article on the movie, I meant songs like “Your Idol” and “What It Sounds Like” which is full of symbolism.
The movie exposes what happens when one deals and sells one’s soul to the satan for fame, success, money and for a better luxurious life and ends up going to hell. How satan reminds us again and again of our mistakes, shame, sorrow and selfishness, doesn’t let us forget it and taking advantage of it. How cunning/manipulative satan is who persuades people to deal and sell their souls. How spell is cast on people through songs and how people are hypnotized and brought under the control and are forced to listen to those songs again and again because of spells.
Yes i’m Minnie from the old forum
@Elimin82 Hello Minnie, glad to see you back on the VC forum.
Oh thanks ..glad to see you too
i know they’re not Kpop , but do you guys think about Katseye ? they def sold their soul with that Gnarly song ..
