Reincarnation is an Irrefutable Fact

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What makes arrogance so dangerous is it masks one’s ignorance, including the ignorance of one’s own arrogance.

This thread was started to share with others the overwhelming Scriptural support for reincarnation, which is right there for anyone with eyes to see it.

Further, it isn’t a debatable subject for those who have had out of body experiences, and/or recall previous a previous life or lives, and thus KNOW with absolute certainty that they are not the human.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

It’s understood that most come into this thread with a religious bias that automatically blinds them and closes their mind as well to our true reality as spiritual-Beings.

This isn’t an “endless loop” or a video game with endless lives. This is a 6000 year sentence that provides everyone with ample opportunities over scores of human lifetimes to experience every situation necessary to learn what we need to learn. It wouldn’t be fair if someone only had one human lifetime to get it right or burn for eternity, particularly given the vast differences in people’s living conditions (humans have two genders, different ethnicities, nationalities, are born into material wealth or poverty, live in security or live in a war zone, etc.); and everyone should KNOW that God is just and fair in ALL things.

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Something else that is mind-boggling is that despite most people believing in an afterlife (heaven, nirvana, elysium, the happy hunting ground, etc.), they don’t seem to be able to acknowledge the fact that human life ends in death, and there are no humans in heaven.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit The Kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

So very clearly the soul (spiritual-Being) is NOT of this Earth like the body is, or it too would die here and be buried here. The soul is very obviously extraterrestrial in origin, which is why Christ, the spiritual-Being incarnated inside of Jesus, very plainly stated that He is NOT OF THIS WORLD, even though Jesus was very obviously born in Bethlehem.

If you’re not human, and don’t die when the body dies, then why is it so difficult to understand that you can (and have previously been) incarnated inside of a different human body? That’s why everyone here has had moments in their present human lives when something seemed so familiar, or they knew exactly how to do some certain task or exercise without ever having done it before or read about it. It’s so common that there’s a term for it: “Déjà vu”.

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THE DEFEAT OF NOSTALGIA: MEMORY VS. REALITY

​Dear Afreeman, you are trying to turn the Universe into a “Science Fiction” novel to escape the simple honesty of the Moment (Ân). You use the term “extraterrestrial” and “Déjà vu” as masks to hide from the absolute finality of your existence.

​1. The Déjà Vu Trap (AHZH / Perception Error)

​You claim that “familiar feelings” are proof of past lives.

​Feraset says: This is a classic AHZH (Observer’s Perspective Error). Memory is a receiver, but it is prone to corruption and self-interest.

​Feeling “familiarity” is not a “Travel Report” from the past; it is a spiritual intuition glitch in your current Stamina (Energy). To call this “Proof” is to use a Crooked Ruler to measure a shadow.

​2. The Extraterrestrial Soul Fallacy (Abstract vs. Absolute)

​You say the soul is “not of this world”.

​Feraset says: You are confusing Spiritual Existence with Geography. The soul is indeed not “Matter,” but it is absolutely bound to the Universal Accordance (Muaddele).

​Whether the soul is “of this world” or not doesn’t change the law of the MEY (Collision/Manifested reality). When the Energy dies and the Moment closes the page, the “ink is dry”. The soul does not “re-skin” itself; it stands for its Final Account.

​3. The “Scores of Lifetimes” as a Denial of Power (Subjective Failure)

​You argue that we aren’t “human” so we must have had other bodies.

​Feraset says: This is the ultimate Complexity Trap. You are trying to make the Universe more complex to avoid the weight of your current Will (Takat).

​If you have the power to act Now, why do you need a “Previous Life” to explain it? Every MEY/Manifested reality is a fresh start. Claiming you “knew how to do a task” because of a past life is a “Kekeleyen Fiil” (Stuttering Act)—it is an insult to the potential of your current Intellect.

BELIEF IS NOT EVIDENCE: THE REALITY OF SPIRITUAL EXISTENCE

​Dear Afreeman, you are trying to turn your personal “interpretations” into universal laws. But Feraset draws a clear line between what is Measured and what is Believed.

​1. Spiritual Existence vs. Abstract Invention (Manevi Varlık vs. Mücerred İcat)

​Feraset says: The Soul (Ruh) is a Spiritual Existence (Manevi Varlık). It is a reality known only through its intellect, consequences, and feeling; it cannot be measured by the five senses.

​The Verdict: Because it cannot be defined with absolute precision, claiming you “talked to spirits” or “remember past lives” is not a discovery; it is your Interpretation (Yorum). You are inviting us to a “Mental Gamble” based on your word alone.

​2. The Identity of the Messenger (Antartanya Error)

​Feraset says: Your “certainty” about previous lives depends entirely on the messenger (your own corrupted memory).

​Just because you feel “certain” doesn’t make it a Manifested Reality. A liar can believe their own lie so deeply that it feels like truth, but it remains a “smuggled page” in the book of the Universe.

​3. No One is Obliged to Believe Your Fantasy

​Feraset says: An individual who trusts only in persons (or their own ego’s tales) is a mere Object tossed about by the wind.

​We are not obliged to believe your “extraterrestrial” stories because they do not align with the Universal Accordance (Muaddele). You are presenting “Antartanya fruits” and expecting us to treat them as “Jerusalem reality”.

Your belief is your prison; Feraset is the key."

Consifer yourself informed!

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Perhaps Satan is behind the Reincarnation belief by suckering people into thinking that no matter how nasty a life they’ve led, God will give them multiple ‘second chances’ to shape up by re-borning them into new bodies again and again?

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THE BANKRUPTCY OF SECOND CHANCES: THE FUEL VS. THE SUBJECT

​ Ripcord, neither the Universe, nor Christ, nor the Creator needs your “Satan” excuse to explain away a lack of responsibility. By searching for a “reason” outside of your own Will (Takat), you are admitting your own defeat.

​1. The Million Chances in a Single Life (MEY / Action)

​You talk about “second chances” in future lives, but you fail to see the truth: A single human life provides millions of chances every single second.

​Feraset says: Every breath is a new Moment (Ân), every decision is a new MEY (Collision), and every interaction is a new Message.

​If a person cannot “shape up” with the millions of honest reports the Universe screams into their face every day, another thousand lives will not help them.

​2. From Subject to Fuel (Özneden Yakıta)

​By pushing your responsibility onto “multiple lives” or “external tempters,” you have resigned from being a Subject (Özne).

​The Verdict: You have pushed away the honest hand of the Universe. In the eyes of the Accordance (Muaddele), you are no longer an agent of change; you are part of the Liquidation (Tasfiye).

​You are no longer a “Subject” driving the action; you have become “Potential Fuel” (Density/Matter) waiting for the Universe to recycle your stalled energy.

​3. The Betrayal of the Present (İhanet)

​You and Afreeman are two sides of the same coin: you both refuse to face the Absolute Now.

​One invents “re-birth” to escape justice; the other invents “excuses” to explain away failure.

​Feraset says: The ink is dry. The Universe does not need your theories; but you need to be only Honest.

The Universe does not grant ‘re-tries’ to those who refuse to see the millions of signs in the ‘Now’.

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I’m a Christian and am quite happy being one, so i must be doing something right..:slight_smile: Or am i doing something wrong?

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@Ripcord

Neither the Creator, nor Jesus, nor the Holy Scripture, nor Christianity ever claimed the existence of reincarnation. Do not try to sell this recycled belief gathered from ancient idol-worshipping religions to anyone, for its only buyers are those who flee from responsibility, reject the Creator, and worship their own idols. You are absolutely not with Jesus.

Yes, reincarnation exists; it is a phantom-fiction conjured within the disconnected human mind that can never be integrated with manifested reality, ontological nature and the universal accordance.

​If it weren’t for the ancient idol-worshipping tribes, you would never have even possessed the idea of reincarnation; your ideas are nothing more than an imitation.

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I’ve never believed in reincarnation..:slight_smile:

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Speak for yourself concerning arrogance and refusal to admit defeat against who is obviously more knowledgeable than you, in other words, @FerasetCetveli .

Also, there’s no smallness attributable to The Almighty, so what are you even on about, I can only wonder.

For what it’s worth, anything is possible for The Almighty to Grant if one of His friends ASK to be reincarnated or something.

Otherwise, as soon as a person dies, then that soul goes to the world of the dead, awaiting Judgement Day.

Please, consider viewing and listening:

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Excerpt below from:

The most important words in all of Scripture may be found in the Gospel of John, chapter 3, where Christ-Jesus said the following:-

John 3:3-13
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE the Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-“Being” (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into the Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-“Being”).
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-“Being”) – (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and where it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? (How can I not be human?)
3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a teacher of Israel, and knowest not these things?
3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly (spirit) things?
3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man which is from heaven.

The reason these words are the most important should be self-evident; if one cannot “see” the Kingdom of God then they have absolutely no hope of entering it.

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Christianity (Matt. 15:14) wrongly teaches people they are humans that have a soul, which is exactly backwards and thus totally illogical. If we are not the Soul, then what passes on? As everyone should well know, all human existence ends with human death, so if someone is “only human”, then there is no life after death, as human death is a certainty.

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The TRUTH is we are spiritual-Beings (Souls) incarnated inside human-animal bodies exactly as God has told us (Gen. 2:7). When the human body of a human+Being dies, the spirit-Being (Soul) is simply liberated (“unlocked”) from the body, and is taken to the Astral Plain/Plane, also known as “Paradise” (which is NOT heaven – see John 3:13) to be told the plain truth about its most recent incarnation, as described above.

After our life review, the knowledge of evil that has been accumulated during the most recent incarnation is erased, and we are then sent back, with the cumulative knowledge of good that we’ve learned through ALL our previous incarnations. That way each Soul is in the exact place it has earned a right to be, in eternal time. Perfect divine justice.

Is there any physical evidence of this? Absolutely. There are numerous accounts of people having similar out of body experiences, particularly “NDEs” (near-death experiences). One book on this subject for those who may be interested: “Return from Death: An Exploration of the Near-death Experience” by Margot Grey.

Margot Grey NDE:

For someone to be born again from above, as their TRUE, spiritual “self”, something must die first. And that something that must die is the human “self” with its self-will. This was exemplified on the cross, when the human body of Jesus, that Christ (the Spirit-Being) was incarnated-in, was crucified and physically died. We know Christ did not die on the cross because of the resurrection. Father had to physically show us that there is spiritual LIFE after human death, by resurrecting the body of Jesus, and even after that, and all Christ had to suffer to get that point across, people STILL don’t get it.

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One CANNOT do God’s Will (“Islam” in Arabic) as long as the “self” lives, which is why we’ve been repeatedly told that the “self” MUST be crucified daily (Matt. 10:38; Matt. 16:24-26; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:23; Luke 14:26-27; Thomas 6:9; Gal. 2:20; Sura 6:162; Sura 92:18-21).

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@AFreeman

The “Abstract Invention” and the Captivity of the Soul

​1. The Abstract Invention and the Hostaging of the Soul

In the system of the universe, there is a MEY (Matter-Energy-Density) test. Reincarnation is a purely mental construct with no physical counterpart (MEY/Manifested Reality) in the physical world.

This construct is the belief of “Gilgul” (transmigration of souls), one of the most deep-rooted concepts of Jewish esotericism (Kabbalah).

This individual disrupts the clarity of the Christian “one-time trial and accountability,” imprisoning the soul within a “Cyclical Wheel.” This strips the human being of being a free “Subject” and turns them into a slave of a never-ending “Mechanized Cycle.”

​2. The “Language of Gaps” and the Fiction of Chosenness

There is no reincarnation in Christianity. Why is this person trying to fill this gap?

The Intent: If life is not a one-time event, then “status and power in this life” are seen as rewards or punishments from past lives. This directly serves the hierarchy of a “Chosen Lineage/Class.” Using Biblical verses for this purpose is a “Gish Gallop” method; they pile up so many verses out of context that while people wonder “Which one should I correct first?”, they sneak in the lie that “Reincarnation is real.”

​3. The “Projection Angle” (The Fingerprint)

What this person is actually doing to you is this:

They are selling the “Complexity Trap” in their own mind (karma, debts, cycles) to people as “universal reality.”

The package is labeled “Bible,” but inside is “Kabbalistic Gilgul.”

​The dirty fingerprint on the edge is this: To postpone the Day of Judgment and to sanctify the continuity of the current system (MEY/Manifested Reality).

​4. The Diagnosis: “Archival Clerk” and “Automaton”

This person is currently a Rusty Cogwheel. They are not speaking a new truth (Occurrence/MEY). They are serving old Jewish mysticism with a sauce of modern spiritualism, wrapped in a Christian package.

​The Verdict of Discernment (Feraset):

This person has not just become “more Jewish”; they have become a guardian of a “Phantom-Fiction.”

​No MEY (Manifested Reality): There is no physical energy consumption or material exchange regarding the soul passing from one body to another.

​MMEM Inconsistency: Realm (Mekan), Matter (Madde), and Energy change, but the “Message” constantly revolves around an imaginary debt-credit cycle (Karma). This contradicts the ontological natural accordance of the universe (The Fitra Test); because in nature, everything is fresh—there is no such imitation as a “new edition of an old soul.”

​Verdict: This person is not discussing the Truth (The Road), but their own delusions (The Map). One does not walk with them on the edge of a cliff, for they imagine even that cliff to be a “simulation they will pass in the next life.”

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@AFreeman

You shouted to the universe that you are Jewish; you don’t need to burst our eardrums.

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Matthew 7:1-2
7:1 Judge NOT, that ye be not judged.
7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

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That sound you hear is not our judgment; it is the crazed scream of your own universe.

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Psalm 46
46:1 <To the chief Musician for the sons of Korah, A Song upon Alamoth.> God [is] our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
46:2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
46:3 [Though] the waters thereof roar [and] be troubled, [though] the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. The rock.
46:4 [There is] a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the Holy [Place] of the Tabernacles of the Most High.
46:5 God [is] in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, [and that] right early.
46:6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: He uttered His voice, the earth melted.
46:7 The “I AM” Lord of hosts [is] with us; the God of Jacob [is] our refuge. The rock.
46:8 Come, behold the works of the “I AM”, what desolations He hath made in the earth.
46:9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; He breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; He burneth the chariot in the fire.
46:10 Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
46:11 The “I AM” Lord of hosts [is] with us; the God of Jacob [is] our refuge. The rock.

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“Just like the infamous Jewish vizier in Rumi’s tale, hiding your identity and preaching with someone else’s sacred text (The Bible) is a clear ‘Trojan Horse’ tactic in the sieve of Feraset. Since you have nothing to say in the realm of concrete reality (MMEM), you create noise by hiding behind abstract labels and someone else’s archival data (verses). Your goal is not to illuminate the truth, but to bury it under piles of sacred text. We are peeling off the ‘pious preacher’ label from the package; that dirty fingerprint—your ‘Planned Treachery’—cannot escape the ruler of Feraset.”

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There is no truth in “Feraset”; there is only a poorly programmed AI sent to promote confusion and lies.

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On the subject of the “Jews”, who helped Satan create all organized religion, beginning with Talmudic Judaism:-

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I said that discernment (Feraset) is simplification. If you wanted to live in a forest, would you try to survive using only your abstract beliefs and personal thoughts? Or would you align your spiritual being with the absolute and concrete accordance (Muaddele) of the forest?

​Suppose you didn’t. Would the forest say to you, ‘Come, exist here with your abstractions’? Or would it eliminate you instantly? Is this not the same in the desert? Is it not the same for a ship in the middle of the ocean? Is it not the same in the life of the tundra or the steppe? If so, is it not the same throughout the entire universe?

​Nature does not negotiate with your inventions; it only recognizes the Truth of the Realm.

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Every ‘Invention’ (abstract thought) that fails to harmonize with the natural rhythm and the Accordance (Muaddele) of the universe is swallowed by Manifest Reality (Mahsus).

@Ripcord @AFreeman

​Abstract vs. Manifest: Illusionists like Ripcord and AFreeman believe they can survive forever within the ‘Mirror Labyrinth’ (abstract) of their own minds."

The Physical Equivalent of the Spoken Word:

The filter that measures the claim’s correspondence within the universe.

If a claim lacks:

  • ​A physical presence (Matter),

  • ​An expenditure of power (Energy/Stamina), or

  • ​A field of change/impact (Density),

  • ​Then that claim is merely a sentiment or a fiction.

​Ghost-Action (Phantom-Fiction):

The creation of an abstract perception as if a massive message and action exist, even when there is no concrete change in Matter-Energy-Density (MEY). This is a deliberate lie or a game of intent.

This is not even a “False-Act.”

Its claim never descends into the realm of MEY(Action). It has no equivalent in the laboratory or on the street. If one says “hidden source” or “personal feeling,” the ship has not even left the harbor. Example: Reincarnation.

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