Amiri Tsarfati also thought the Archangel Gabriel was JC, which is a Jehovas Witness belief and false biblically. He is deep-state Israel, aka, synagogue of Satan. He says if you do not, as a Christian, choose to bless Israel, then you will be damned. In other words, he replaces Jesus with Israel and the jews, and therefore, blasphemes JC.
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Thereâs two camps in theological circles regarding who Babylon is: Rome or Jerusalem.
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Revelation 17:16 NASB1995
And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire.
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Who is the harlot?
HINT: Jesus has the nations turn against the harlot before He destroys the nations.
Itâs not Rome.
From what I understand the Bible speaks of three women. The widow, the bride, and the whore. The widow are the Hebrews who rejected their husband (God). The bride are followers of Christ, Christ is referred to as the âbridegroomâ. And the whore which is the Babylonian mystery religion. Thatâs why the whore is named âMystery Babylonâ. The whore represents all of the occult religions including things like the kabbalah and some would say also the Roman Catholic Church
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Agreed that there is no question from the description given in Revelation 17 and 18 identifies âthe Great Whoreâ as Roman Catholicism, who built the wealthiest business empire on Earth by whoring the Word of God for filthy lucre.
The Protestant Christian nations of the world very obviously protested against the whore (hence their name). Perhaps nowhere more than in Northern Ireland (descended from Judah-Zarah) is the war between protestantism and Roman Catholicism more apparent, as they regularly murdered one another over their perceived religious differences.
The piece of the puzzle that most are missing is the 10 âLostâ Tribes of Israel. Because the counterfeit-Jews have sold their anti-Biblical amalgamation nonsense to the rest of the world (falsely claiming to represent not just the tribe of Judah, but the other 11 tribes as well), most people donât take the time nor make the effort to research where the northern 10 tribes â the 10-tribed âHouse of Israelâ â migrated and what nations they became.
The Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944 did more than make the U.S. dollar the world reserve currency; it established a new framework for international monetary cooperation through the creation of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD).
It was this new framework that built the economies of the Israelite nations into what they are today, while at the very same time plunging them all into debt slavery, by design and according to prophecy.
From the Blessings and the Curses/Penalties in Deuteronomy 28:-
28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the âI AMâ thy God, to observe to do all His Commandments and His Statutes which I command thee this day; that ALL THESE CURSES [of the Law] shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
28:43 The stranger that [is] within thy borders shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
28:44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the âI AMâ thy God, to keep His Commandments and His Statutes which He commanded thee:
28:46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
28:47 Because thou servedst not the âI AMâ thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all [things];
28:48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the âI AMâ shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in need of all [things]: and He shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until He have destroyed thee.
28:49 The âI AMâ shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, [as swift] as the eagle (emblem of Babylon and their descendants the Romans) flieth; a nation whose tongue (babble-onian) thou shalt not understand;
So the very same monetary policy that built the economic kingdoms/âhornsâ of the Commonwealth nations of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, etc., along with the U.S. and U.K., is the beast system that has enslaved them all through both individual and national debt.
It should likewise be self-evident that the technocrats are already running everything via this same monetary system, given the ease at which the lethal injection program (CoVID-19) artificial (i.e. FAKE) intelligence, unsustainable data centers, the proliferation of smart phones, the irradiation of the entire planet with 5G microwave radiation, etc. has been deployed against the gullible public.
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It says in revelation that the beast that the whore rides upon will eventually tourn on the whore and devour her. This represents the new beast system replacing the old system. The whore represents the world now as it is run by a system of people whom practice the Babylonian mystery religion. Eventually (maybe sooner rather than later) there will be a new system where Lucifer is worshipped openly. This will be the beast system. But I think they might try to use the Luciferian concept of âwe are all godsâ to sell it to the masses. Where it is the concept of Lucifer that is worshipped, not the actual deity so to speak
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Revelation 18 describes the destruction of the Vatican after which I believe that the false prophet will establish the one world religion in Jerusalem. Then of course Luke 21 explains that Jerusalem will be overrun and destroyed by the gentiles, which would necessarily happen once the world sees the wickedness of the one world, communist government/religion set up in Jerusalem.
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I agree that the one world religion is luciferianism. I believe that the false prophet will say that the Bible is fulfilled and no longer relevant. Therefore, he will say that everyone is going to heaven regardless of whether you are Jew, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, pagan, atheist or the most vile human being just so long as you accept technological slavery to him. He may say that the sign of the beast is a visible sign of righteousness rather than defilement. We saw this during covid when politicians and celebrities were virtue signaling that submission to the vaccine was righteous and that if you didnât then you were pariah and worthy of death.
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When I first became a Christian I couldnât decide which book to read first, so I decided to start at the beginning of the NT and the sermon on the mount blew my mind but more importantly it taught me how to live a life that glorified God.
After a few weeks I was picking up on other Christians talk about Revelation, 666, the beast, Armageddon etc. So on account of that I skipped most of the rest of the NT and went straight to Rev. I couldnât understand what I was reading. But I kept at it for a couple of weeks and finally decided to get some advice on how to read it. The advice I got was in the form of a question , which was, âare you trying to suss out the book for Godâs glory or is it for your own personal pride and gloryâ. I didnât have time to answer before I was schooled on how every generation for over 1000 years has had their own version of who the antichrist is, what the beast system is, when the end will come etc. So apparently every pope for at least the last 200 years was The antichrist, turns out none of them were. Ronald Reagan was the antichrist, it was right there in front of everyoneâs face, Ronald Wilson Reagan, 666, shot and survived a fatal wound. Then the evangelicals, upset that one of thereâs could be the thought of as the antichrist, decided no, itâs not Reagan, it is actually Gorbachev. The evidence for this was that he had a birthmark on his head, which, to the crazies, was sign of a fatal wound. Neither of the two were The antichrist.
I could go on but iâll just reiterate what I said in my original post.
The book of Revelation is really tough to understand, and imho, itâs a waste of time to try and understand unless you feel you have an anointing to do so.
Thatâs not to say that shouldnât read it but I believe Revelation is a book for a future generation who will live through what the events of the book describe and they wont have to debate with one another whether it points to this or that because through the Holy Spirit they will understand fully what it all means.
The rest of us can only try and interpret it through the lens of the here and now and that, imo, is why there are so many differing interpretations and that, imo, is a waste of time.
Interesting theory. But if Catholicism is a fake religion then what does this passage from ch18:4 mean?,
Come out of her, my people,â
so that you will not share in her sins,
so that you will not receive any of her plagues.
Why would God have to tell his people to âcome out of herâ if theyâre not in there in the first place?
If I can offer up an alternative theory (which is no theory at all as Iâm just throwing it out there) Could it be that God is actually talking about christian zionism? @Karlysymon has a thread on the go about the collapse of christian zionism. Could it be that God has started calling his people âout of herââŚ?
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It is not a waste of time. Understanding this book of the Bible will help you understand what has passed and what will pass. For instance the beast that was wounded was Germany after WWII and the New World Order(beast system) is coming(growing) back stronger than before.
I would recommend reading the book of Revelation again with fresh eyes. We are definitely living during the end times.
I understand your point about the antichrist, like constantly saying the sky is falling. However the antichrist is not even mentioned in the book of Revelation. Christians automatically think the antichrist will be the polar opposite of Jesus but the Bible doesnât even insinuate this. A.I. may even be the antichrist for all we know. Christians also automatically think the antichrist is Satan or Lucifer but again the Bible doesnât say this either.
I believe the churches have confused a lot in the book, possibly intentionally.
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I have known Catholics who sincerely accept and worship Christ and his Father. However, that does not excuse them for worshipping statues and relics or participating in necromancy which is talking and praying to dead people like Mary and the saints. The only true God in the highest heaven absolutely forbids idolatry and necromancy throughout the Bible but Catholics do it in rebellion against him anyway. Also, Catholics worship a dead Jesus hanging on a cross rather than the risen Christ. They worship death rather than life. However, God knows that he has people in the Catholic Church that worship him in truth and life but he calls them out of Catholicism according to Rev 18:4 because unless they turn away from idolatry then they will reap the punishment of the whore of Babylon. The Catholic Church is also the source of defiling various translations of the Bible and thereby many of the churches that claim to be Christian that believe that the people of the nation of Israel are Godâs people even though they reject the only real savior that they will ever have. While I do believe that Rev 18 is referring to the Vatican, I am also aware that the whore has many daughters throughout the world who will likely be among those who are crying when they see their mother go up in smoke.
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You could be right with Germany. But you could also be completely wrong just as the vatican/communist theory could be right or completely wrong.
Yea, I think there is two theories put forward by the AC theorists. The first one, âthe false prophet is the ACâ is obvious nonsense. Second the AC is a man whom satan gives his power to.
The second is the only one that could possibly make at least a little bit of sense.
Iâve said it before and Iâll say it again. Theology is an enemy of the Gospel and like you I think itâs deliberate, a tool of Satan.
And countless others have also believed that over the last 2000 years. I say, live your life for Christ as if he will be returning tomorrow.
Anyway, let me throw a spanner in the works, this is for you too @cameos
Romans 11:25
âI do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come inâ.
Revelation 7:3-8
âDo not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.â Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000".
So would it be fair to say that there will be no more Gentile believers (genuine believers) on Earth from at least Revelation 7 onwards?
If thatâs the case @jojodancer then we canât be in the last days yet and @cameos if thatâs the case then there will be no Catholic true believers in the Vatican for God to tell them to come out.
Either Iâm putting 1+1 together and coming up with potato or both of you will have to reorganise how you read Revelation.
For the record, Iâm not saying Iâm right and you are wrong. Iâm just throwing it out there.
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A seal is put on their foreheads. A seal is probably some sort of protection as things are about to get destructive in this chapter. It is interesting that the seal is on the forehead. Maybe protecting the pineal gland or third eye? Children of God will be able to see things others wonât perhaps? We must also consider that the mark of the beast is on the hand or forehead. So the ones with the mark of the beast instead of the seal of God on their foreheads wonât be ready for the days of reckoning.
You must also consider that the book of Revelation is not written in chronological order. Which may be intentional since the children of God donât participate in things like soothsaying but we must still be ready for what is to come. The followers of El participate in activities such as clairvoyance and soothsaying to literary guide every thing they do in the long term.
We donât know everything going on in the book of Revelation. Like a detailed painting that is blurry when you are standing far away but gets clearer as you approach it is how the book is currently unfolding. There are still some things that donât make complete sense but there are things that are easy to see now.
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In chapter 14 the 144,000 are mentioned again,
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Fatherâs name written on their foreheads. **2 **And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. **3 **And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. **4 **These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. **5 **No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.
Do you think those are the same 144,000 from chapter 7?
I like trying to keep up with technological stuff and ask myself if thereâs a possibility that something similar will used in the last days. The ones below are about bees but I was thinking about the locusts that come out of the smoke from the abyss.
In 10-20 years time technology could move ahead much further and something completely different will come about.
Who knows?
This verse is talking about helicopters. I have heard it is specifically referring to the first Gulf War. I am inclined to believe it is the first Gulf War because of the importance of these helicopters: AH-64 Apaches. The war was close to five months long. I donât believe helicopters will be important in any upcoming wars.
It does sound like it is the same 144k in chapter 7 & 14. I havenât a clue what is going on in chapter 14. It could be the aftermath of Godâs wrath. The sound of rushing water could be an indication of the end of the Age of Pisces and the start of the Age of Aquarius. The man is pouring the water out and only the true Jesus fish will survive or reach heaven?
Hi there, Iâm dropping in on the thread: Iâve worked out a format and put together a video (only 3min); my aim is to share the Christian end of days perspective on the conspiracy; thought this might be an appropriate place to share it: maybe get your thoughts and impressions and if you like it and feel led maybe help me in sharing it around and getting it in circulation. In it I try to present and emphasize a consistent world view which encompasses the societal elements of the conspiracy and itâs spiritual aspects and share concepts which I consider central to the Gospel. Hereâs the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lff4cBzwdME , also if anyone likes the artwork and wants to download it: here it is. Thanks
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My drone/cyborg theory and your helicopter theory both fall apart as they donât have womenâs hair or lions teeth, although when John saw the vision he could have saw the faces of helicopter pilots, but none of the rest fits. It could be that the locusts are actual demonic entities and they look exactly as described by John.
The first gulf war was just over a month long, mid January-late February.
And I think this is the problem, with every theory thereâs something else either in Rev or elsewhere in the bible that throws doubt on every theory I have personally heard.
I remember back in the old forum that there was a few videos posted saying that this one or that one had a dream that China and Russia were about to invade America. This invasion seemed to have November as the time of the invasion, and I was thinking that these people have gone into Revelation with a fixed mindset that Communism is the beast system. Then they immerse themselves in the book to prove this theory and what ends up happening is that their subconscious, trying to make sense of it all, throws out dreams, but the dreams have no real value or meaning. It could also be that during that time they attended church and one of the songs they sang went along the lines of âI will enter his gates with thanksgiving in my heartâŚâ and before you know it the commies are invading in November.
Iâm going to leave it there before I start having gobbledygook dreams of my own.
The womanâs hair are the blades on top and lionâs fangs are below the glass on the helicopter.
The duration of the Gulf War was close enough to five months to make a case that through 2,000 years of prophecy we may have missed a fine detail here:
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August -February would be seven months, give or take a day or two. I suppose you could check the hebrew calendar to see if it comes to 5 months.
Some other things that might add to the theory. Gulf war syndrome. Depleted Uranium. Smoke from burning oil wells and oil spillage into the Persian Gulf.
However, in regard to the helicopters,
5They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months.
That surely takes the helicopters off the table as they were heavily armed machines designed not for injury but rather for killing.
You donât send them out with the instruction that âThey were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five monthsâ.
Anyway, as much as I find some of the theories here interesting, iâm done for at least a wee while.
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This has actually been on my mind and wanted to bring up Rev 18 in my thread but you beat me to it! My train of thought was that the collapse of Christian Zionism is too seismic, too consequential within & for Protestantism that something like it would have been prophesied aboutâŚto say nothing of the fact that John uses identical language as the Prophet Jeremiah in describing the pronouncements of the angel in Rev 18. (see Jeremiah 50:8, 51:6-8, 51:45).
This is happening in the broader context of people finding their faith again, especially after the covid episode. Obviously we canât physically see the angels of Rev 14:6-12 and Rev 18 âflying in the midst of heaven and proclaiming in a loud voiceâŚâ and yet their movements can be discerned, that this work is underway 9atleast thatâs what i believe).
Evangelical pastors themselves are aware that their office/profession is under threat and may not survive. If this planet had another 50yrs, no one will be able to teach this doctrine with a straight face nor will it be accepted because the cost to life & liberty is too great.
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