# The Truth About Christmas
**URL:** https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967
**Category:** Religions & Spirituality
**Created:** [December 22, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967 "2025-12-22T18:48:00Z")
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/1 "2025-12-22T18:48:00Z")
> **[Christmas](https://jahtruth.net/xmas.htm)**
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/2 "2025-12-22T18:49:49Z")
Excerpt from the linked article in the OP:
**X-MASS - YULETIDE**
**A PAGAN FESTIVAL**
**(which is actually condemned by Christ)**
**CHRIST’S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.**
> Xmas has absolutely **nothing** to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of **SUN** worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the “Market-system” which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, **like today** , it made them **lots** of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) P **a** ter ( **NOT** Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the [Babylonian](https://jahtruth.net/robab.htm) Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches **the opposite** of what Christ taught, and has **SUN** days as its sabbath days, due to its **SUN** -god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon P **a** ter **NOT** Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called “christianity” (Acts 8:9-25). Christ’s **TRUE** followers or disciples called themselves “**Followers of [The Way](https://jahtruth.net/nsongad.htm)**” or “ **Those True to The Covenant** ” (Nazrim ha-Brit), **NOT christians**.
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> **SUN** day is the **FIRST** day of the week, **NOT** the Sabbath which is the **SEVENTH** day; on which God rested. This “so-called” christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a “Tower of Babel” (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that **YOU** must **NOT** go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means **all** churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which **Christ** says he **HATES,** in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of [fertility](https://jahtruth.net/fertil.htm) - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion).
> Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which **I (Christ) ALSO HATE**.
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> Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - **Santa Claus** ), which thing **I** ( **Christ** ) **HATE**.
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> The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ **HATES** , because it is Satanic and **NOT** from God or Christ, as **he makes perfectly clear** in the verses above.
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> **SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET** which Christ has told us is **SATAN’S COLOUR** (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great **RED** dragon - **SATAN** ).
> **SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN** (SANTA - SATAN).
> **SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL**.
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> There is **nothing** Godly about Christmas and **Christ** HATES **it** ; so how **can** christians celebrate it? **Who taught them to do so?** Certainly **NOT** Christ or his apostles.
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> A true Christian would be one who follows Christ’s Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.
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> The “Virgin-birth” was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when “lambs” were being born. It was **NOT** in December, the seasonal time of death.
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### Author:  [@Chaldean](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Chaldean)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/3 "2025-12-22T20:26:55Z")
A very interesting site. 👍
I have a question @AFreeman do you think the earth is a ball or flat?
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/4 "2025-12-22T20:32:45Z")
Our time seems better spent working on getting out of this prison rather than arguing over what shape it is, wouldn’t you agree? 🙂
But since you’ve asked, the Earth is spherical in shape according to our Creator. Do you sail please?
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### Author:  [@Chaldean](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Chaldean)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/5 "2025-12-22T20:38:25Z")
> [@AFreeman](#):
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> the Earth is spherical in shape according to our Creator.
Can you elaborate, I don’t really understand ???
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/6 "2025-12-22T20:39:25Z")
Sure. Shall we start another thread on that subject?
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### Author:  [@Chaldean](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Chaldean)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/7 "2025-12-22T20:40:17Z")
Okay 👍
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### Author:  [@jojodancer](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/jojodancer)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/8 "2025-12-23T21:29:07Z")
It makes me sick that Jesus taught against materialism and we celebrate his “birth” with an excess of materialism. There was that saying keep Christ in Christmas. I think that is blasphemous. Keep Jesus’ name out of that pagan celebration.
Chaldean had a fantastic post showing the parallels between the Christmas tree and the Kundalini self awakening snakes here:
> [@Vatican](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/vatican/489/61):
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> Nowadays, you can read all kinds of nonsense and New Age “explanations” on the Internet but the reality is very simple and obvious and has not changed over the centuries. Let us look closely at this idol to truly understand the Hermetic symbolism contained within. The image of Baphomet in the hermetic position personifies Satan. All the great Satanists, occultists and Freemasons have said this very clearly and there is no other “explanation”. “THIS IS THE SYMBOL OF BAPHOMET IT WAS USED BY…
He points out the star on top of the tree is an inverted pentagram. Then what the angel topper? It is supposed to be representative of Gabriel. But who is the angel of light for these satanists? I believe the angel is supposed to be Lucifer. They used to use Jesus as a tree topper some time ago but we have replaced him in our homes with self fulfilling paths of enlightenment and the angel of light. Kind of sums things up in America right now.
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### Author:  [@Ripcord](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Ripcord)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/9 "2025-12-24T02:10:52Z")
For us Christians, Christmas is a time of celebration of Jesus’s birth, but satan has cleverly poisoned many nonchristians minds against it, it’s what he does…a classic example are Jehovahs Witnesses who he’s suckered into believing a whole load of his satanic twaddle-
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/10 "2025-12-24T08:51:23Z")
The word/title “devil” means **LIAR**.
If people choose to believe in and celebrate **LIES** , like [Xmas](https://jahtruth.net/xmas) and [Ishtar/Easter](https://jahtruth.net/passnot), then they have absolutely **NOTHING** to do with Christ, regardless of whether they call themselves “[Christians](https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/the-top-10-myths-that-dominate-christianity/)”.
And what did Christ (the Truth - [John 14:6](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/48john.htm#14_6)) say about Xmas, with St. Nick and Xmas trees, etc. and those that celebrate it?
Revelation 2:6, 15-16
2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest **the deeds of the Nicolaitanes** (followers of Santa [Ni]-Claus - Yuletide, Easter [Ishtar - a goddess of fertility - eggs a symbol of fertility] etc.), **which I also HATE**.
2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of **the followers of St. [Ni]-Claus** (Yuletide), **WHICH THING I HATE**.
2:16 **REPENT** ; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
And what will happen to **ALL LIARS** on the Last Day?
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and **ALL LIARS** , shall have their part in the lake which burneth with Fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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### Author:  [@Kidkip](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Kidkip)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/11 "2025-12-24T09:03:20Z")
Your response shows how little you understand about about the shape of our realm - Do you not understand that if everyone today suddenly understood the nature of that which we inhabit, everything would change in an instant - people would see that we are the centre of everything and that God is right here overseeing everything - currently watching the death throes of the dark forces that have been ruling the material world all our lives - we are here to experience free will - do whatever we wish and learn the lessons we came here to learn (or NOT). This ‘prison’ as you term it is what it is because it’s easier and more lucrative to choose the path of darkness in a world ruled by materialism. The truth of our realm is absolutely EVERYTHING.
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/12 "2025-12-24T09:44:04Z")
> [@Kidkip](#):
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> Your response shows how little you understand about about the shape of our realm - Do you not understand that if everyone today suddenly understood the nature of that which we inhabit, everything would change in an instant - people would see that we are the centre of everything
**WE ARE NOT THE CENTRE OF EVERYTHING** ; the **ONLY** thing that drives people to believe that **LIE** is their own arrogance/ignorance, manifested by the ego (the “self”) which is controlled by Lucifer/Satan/Iblis (the devil). The same egocentric nature that Christ **COMMANDED** us to crucify **DAILY** ([Luke 9:23](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/47luke.htm#9_23)).
God is **THE CENTRE** of everything. And Who did God anoint to be our King? Christ (The Anointed One), the Sun of Righteousness.
Malachi 4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall **the Sun of Righteousness** arise with **[healing in his wings](https://jahtruth.net/heal)**; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
King of kings’ Bible - John 8:3 (John 8:12 KJV) Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, **I am the Light of the world** : he that followeth me shall **not** walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life.
> [@Kidkip](#):
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> and that God is right here overseeing everything - currently watching the death throes of the dark forces that have been ruling the material world all our lives
Of course God is here overseeing everything. He is **The CENTRE of EVERYTHING**. And yes, The Light will destroy the darkness, exactly as physically symbolized each day when the sun rises ([Matt. 24:27](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/45matt.htm#24_27)).
> [@Kidkip](#):
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> - we are here to experience free will - do whatever we wish and learn the lessons we came here to learn (or NOT).
We have been given the free-will to choose between good/truth and evil/lies. But there are consequences for those choices.
Deuteronomy 30:15-20
30:15 See, **I have set before thee** this day **life and good** , and **death and evil;**
30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the “I AM” thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to **keep** His Commandments and His Statutes and His Judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the “I AM” thy God shall bless thee in the land where thou goest to possess it.
30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
30:18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, [and that] ye shall not prolong [your] days upon the land, where thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] **I have set before you life and death** , blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
30:20 That thou mayest love the “I AM” thy God, [and] that thou mayest obey His voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for **He [is] thy Life** , and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the “I AM” sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel, to give them.
Xmas is a **LIE**. The Lamb of God was born in the Spring (the season of rebirth, when lambs are born) **NOT** in the dead of Winter.
> [@Kidkip](#):
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> This ‘prison’ as you term it is what it is because it’s easier and more lucrative to choose the path of darkness in a world ruled by materialism. The truth of our realm is absolutely EVERYTHING.
This place (planet Earth) is referred to repeatedly throughout Scripture as a **PRISON** , and as hell for the very reason you’ve mentioned: most choose the path of darkness in a physical world of materialism instead of choosing Light and the Eternal, Spiritual Life that Light brings.
The slumbering Spiritual-Being (Soul) inside **MUST** awaken ([Dan. 12:1-2](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/33dan.htm#12_1); [Eph. 5:14](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/59eph.htm#5_14)) and see this world as it **REALLY** is, or they will never get to know The One True God AND His Christ, whom God sent, which are prerequisites to being allowed to leave this prison and go home, back out into the Universe God created for us.
John 17:3 And **THIS** is Life Eternal, that they might **KNOW** Thee the **ONLY** True God, **and** Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.
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### Author:  [@Kidkip](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Kidkip)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/13 "2025-12-24T13:53:56Z")
Interesting name ‘tag’ …’freeman’ hahaha - I would say its highly ironic - maybe even oxymoronic - you are anything but ‘free’ - you are either working for those who are getting very worried that FE is being realised at an exponential rate ….OR….you are still firmly addicted to the ‘cool aid’. Freeman - reminded me a bit of ‘Truman’ ….remember The Truman Show …..most didnt understand that we were being shown the truth of our realm by those who have to ‘show’ us to offset ‘karmic debt’….that movie title was a subtle shuffle …it really was ‘Showing the True Man’. We exist in this form inside an enclosed system …mic drop ….
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### Author:  [@Kidkip](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Kidkip)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/14 "2025-12-24T14:07:20Z")
So, as far back as we are able to trace, Polaris has remained firmly fixed directly above Mt Meru - or if you are a nasa fan boy, the north pole. Please try and explain to me that with All of the so-called ball earth’s spinning and wobbling - we are spinning haha - also spinning around the sun hahah - our ‘solar system’ spinning thru our ‘galaxy’ - our galaxy expanding into the endless galactic unknown .. etc …please Freeman, tell me how Polaris remains apparently fixed. Please dont quote any nasa bullshit and please dont try and tell me that the distances are soooo vast etc etc ….and please dont try and tell me that Polaris is locked into fairy tale that makes it move to mirror our spinning ball covered in curved water ….com’on …I have lots of stuff for people like you.
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/15 "2025-12-24T14:18:05Z")
This is a thread concerning the truth about “Christmas”. For those interested in some other, unrelated subject, please visit the appropriate threads.
The following excerpt is from:
> **[The Top 10 Myths That Dominate Christianity](https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/the-top-10-myths-that-dominate-christianity/)**
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> A careful, honest examination of the core, doctrinal beliefs of “Christianity” reveals that few if any of their traditional beliefs are actually scriptural.
#### 4. Ho-ho-ho.
Merry Christ-mas! It’s the most wonderful time of the year (sing along if you know the words), when we celebrate Santa and reindeer and Christ-mas trees and Christ-mas lights and Christ-mas decorations and presents and ski trips and drinking and stuffing our faces at Christ-mas parties. Deck the halls. Jingle bells.
What in the world does any of this have to do with the birth of Jesus?
Ask any Christian and they’ll probably tell you that despite the central role Santa plays in all of this ‘holiday cheer’, they know the real reason for the season. Don’t we all?
**MATERIALISM**.
**[Christ-mass/X-mass](http://jahtruth.net/xmas.htm)** is the most materialistic event on the calendar. Advertising and peer pressure has people spending money they don’t have on things they don’t need, to impress people they don’t know. **THAT** is what X-mass is all about and the **real** reason for the silly season. The supposed birthday of Jesus was simply added to indoctrinate and incorporate Christians into these **overtly** pagan/heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia traditions and **promote** materialism. X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia and the birth of Jesus are, by their very nature, **mutually exclusive**.
**Matthew 6:24** No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. **Ye cannot serve God and materialism.**
X-mass **teaches** people to tell **lies** , and worse yet, it **manipulates** us to perpetuate these lies “for the good of the children”. And if any should refuse to teach, train and **spoil** their children into being selfish and materialistic **liars** like themselves, they face the wrath and judgment of the evil majority (Exod. 23:2) who consider themselves to be St. Nick’s best friend and personal defenders.
From a very early age, children are fed the **LIE** that there is a jolly old man in a **red** suit named Santa [Ni]Claus (old St. Nick/Nicolas) who, in a single night, flies around the world in a sled pulled by flying reindeer (one with a **red** nose that lights the way), landing on people’s rooftops undetected before forcing his obese, jelly-like exterior through the chimney and leaving all of these wonderful gifts under the X-mass tree strung with gold and silver tinsel. As ridiculous as this story sounds, even to children, they are told if they do not **believe in Santa** he won’t come and leave them any presents. How can children believe **anything** their parents tell them after finding out **Santa is a lie**?
**We are training our children to believe in lies and that it’s fun to repeat them.**
The name “Santa” is a very **obvious** anagram for **Satan** , who is the father/inventor of **LIES** [John 8:35 (John 8:44 KJV)] and he is laughing at us all (ho-ho-ho) for falling for his X-mass con job. No wonder Christ **HATES** X-mass.
**Revelation 2:6, 15**
**2:6** But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes (followers of Santa [Ni]-Claus – Yuletide, Easter [Ishtar – a goddess of fertility – eggs a symbol of fertility] etc.), which I also hate.
**2:15** So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the followers of St. [Ni]-Claus (Yuletide), which thing I hate.
So how can so-called Christians do this to Christ? Celebrating a **lie** , and teaching your children to do the same is patently **evil** , which is why Christ (the Truth) **condemns** the pagan tradition of the X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia, which honors Satan/Santa, **NOT** the supposed birth of Jesus. Does anyone really believe that the Lamb of God was born in the dead of Winter? Lambs are born in the **Spring** , the season of **REBIRTH**.
In the year 7 B.C. there was a conjunction of Jupiter (the king of the planets) and Saturn (thought to be the protector of Israel) in the Constellation of Pisces (the Sign of the Messiah), as computed in 1603 by the Astronomer Royal in Prague – Johannes Kepler, that was first visible at daybreak on the 12th of April 7 B.C. (Passover in 7 B.C. was on Monday April 13th which commenced at sundown on the 12th). The earth-shattering significance of this conjunction – Messiah; King; Protector of Israel; Passover – would have been **unmistakable** to the Levitical Druid astronomers (wise men) in the British Isles, where the monarch was also the Archdruid.
**Matthew 2:1-6**
**2:1** Now when Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men (druids) to the East to Jerusalem,
**2:2** Saying, Where is he that has been BORN King of the Jews? for we saw his “Star” in the East, and are come to worship him.
**2:3** When Herod the king had heard [these things], he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
**2:4** And when he had gathered all the chief priests and lawyers of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
**2:5** And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
**2:6** And thou Bethlehem, [in] the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor (of this prison planet), that shall rule My people Israel.
Jesus (Saviour) was born in the **Spring** , in Bethlehem of Judaea, at the time of the **Passover** (when the lamb’s blood saved us by causing the angel of death to passover) **NOT** on the pagan Yuletide/Christmas, during the season of **death**. Celebrating the **heathen** Yuletide/Saturnalia began shortly after the flood ([Gen. 10:8-9](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/01gen.htm#10_8)), and had been going on for **thousands** of years **before** the birth of Jesus.
**Jeremiah 10:1-4**
**10:1** **Hear ye the Word which the “I AM” speaketh unto you, O House of Israel** :
**10:2** Thus saith the “I AM”, Learn **not** the way of the **heathen** , and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
**10:3** For the customs of the people [are] **vain** : for [one] **cutteth a tree out of the forest** , the work of the hands of the workman, **with the axe**.
**10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.**
Spreading lies and continuing to do that thing which Christ hates is a sure- **fire** way to **burn** ([Rev. 21:8](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/72rev.htm#21_8)).
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### Author:  [@The\_Orthodox\_Truth](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/The_Orthodox_Truth)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/16 "2025-12-24T22:42:37Z")
Jesus Christ doesnot hate anything or anyone because He is God and God is Love (only love) in christianity.
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/17 "2025-12-24T23:33:01Z")
The Truth, from Christ (Who is the Truth - [John 14:6](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/48john.htm#14_6)):
Revelation 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, **WHICH I ALSO HATE**.
Revelation 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, **WHICH THING I HATE**.
Of course both Father (God) and Christ **HATE LIES**.
Proverbs 6:16-20
6:16 **These six [things] doth the “I AM” HATE**: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him:
6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
6:19 A false witness [that] speaketh **LIES** , and he that soweth discord among brethren.
6:20 My son, keep thy Father’s Commandment, and forsake not The Law of thy mother (Israel):
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### Author:  [@The\_Orthodox\_Truth](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/The_Orthodox_Truth)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/18 "2025-12-25T00:35:32Z")
First sentence talking about behavour, not people. It is right, Jesus ‘hates’ sins because sins take His children away from Him. Its a way of saying…
Second sentence is not the original text.
Proverbs is Old Testament. Jesus came to make the Moses Law perfect, to complete the Law….
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### Author:  [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/19 "2025-12-25T00:53:55Z")
Matthew 5:17-20
5:17 Think **NOT** that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am **NOT** come to destroy, but to fulfil [to fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily I say unto you, **Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled.**
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called **the least** in The Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the scribes (lawyers) and pharisees (politicians), ye shall in no case enter into The Kingdom of heaven.
**Note:** “the least” in the Kingdom of heaven is the lowest of the low in God’s Eyes.
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### Author:  [@The\_Orthodox\_Truth](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/The_Orthodox_Truth)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-truth-about-christmas/967/20 "2025-12-25T01:09:15Z")
If you know Greek language, in 5.17 the original word is ‘plirose’ which is best translated as ‘ complete’ (not fullfil) the Law. In 5.18 the original words are ‘eos an panta genite’ which is translated as ‘until everything will happen’ not fulfill but quite similar.
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