# The Occult-Espionage-Warfare Nexus **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [November 24, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775 "2025-11-24T14:30:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/1 "2025-11-24T14:30:15Z")
This is a subject of peculiar fascination so when this story ran, I wasn’t surprised more like I was expecting it. Apparently, Hamas also encountered Israel’s occultic manifestations during the war. ![Iranian official Israel used supernatural spirits Jinn during Iran war The Jerusalem Post](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/b/b82712fe63157e2be9424c9b465df4d4bbb148d3.png) ![Iranian official Israel used supernatural spirits Jinn during Iran war -The Jerusalem Post](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/f/f91490b40e9b35c9b75123b1758625219749877a.png) I just wish Hamas was more forthcoming about this (they probably don’t want to be ridiculed) because it’s important information, however anecdotal, for researchers. Now that MSM is prepping us for Round 2 between Israel & Iran, saying it will be more ferocious and bloodier, I will not be shocked even in the slightest bit if we (who live outside the region) are treated to supernatural manifestations in the sky. Afterall, if you have a formidable opponent, you’ll do whatever it it takes to win…and, as a bonus, [Netanyahu & fellow travelers believe a conflagration is needed/precedes the “era of the Messiah”.](https://www.alestiklal.net/en/article/the-era-of-the-messiah-has-come-what-netanyahu-s-remarks-mean-amid-gaza-war) In the many years I’ve been entrenched in conspiracies, I’ve never seen any thing about Mossad & the Occult. No article not even a book and yet there is ample literature on this subject regarding Western Intelligence agencies(there’s only a handful of people in the conspiracy world who cover this topic). CIA/KGB/MI5/MI6 etc all have units devoted to this “line of work” or have employed magicians during wartime and we are supposed to believe that Mossad/Shin Bet don’t have units that do the same? I laughed when Amir Tsarfati claimed that God was fighting for them during the 12day war, like as though it was 2500BC. More than likely, Bibi was in a bunker somewhere feverishly performing a satanic ritual to effect the fall of the Iranian gov’t/regime change. Since Oct 7th, I’ve thought a lot about this particular Burning Man ritual….wondering that perhaps this ritual wasn’t just about the Ukraine war but was also meant to guarantee the “success” of the Greater Israel wars that would begin only a couple weeks later. Note the emphasis, at the end of the video, on Gen Z/Millenials/Influencers. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/8/85f8f72227fcc377d37b5387dc2dc8bd0c1e31b0.jpeg "The Not So Occult Symbolism at Burning Man 2023") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJtVAS0UR8) ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/2 "2025-11-24T14:40:19Z")
> _By 2020, Khamenei explicitly connected supernatural forces to intelligence operations, stating, “Both genie enemies and human enemies exist, and they help each other; intelligence systems of many countries cooperate against us.”_ > > _Since 2021, however, Iranian officials have increasingly directed supernatural allegations outward, particularly toward Israel._ > > _Mohammad Bagheri, a writer linked to the Revolutionary Guard, claims Israel systematically employs “magic, talismans, genie devils, and Kabbalah teachings” in its intelligence operations._ > > _He has written a novel titled ‘From Pemba to Mariana’, exploring these themes. He argues that Israel wages “a multi-layered war against the Islamic world” using both conventional intelligence and supernatural forces._ > > _Mojtaba Azizi, the Friday prayer leader of Varamin near Tehran, said in 2024 that both the CIA and Israel use Jinns in their operations._ > > _He suggested the Islamic Republic might use similar tactics, adding, “Just as you speak of infidel Jinns, there are also believer Jinns - meaning it can be bilateral, and believers can also use believer Jinns.”_ > > _Following the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, seminary professor Mostafa Karimi said, “Israel has a serious history of subjugating Jinns,” indicating that the country’s “top-level rabbis” possess knowledge of supernatural manipulation._ > > _Quranic researcher Saeed Shams echoed these sentiments, claiming, “Jews are more believing and committed than others in talisman work, magic, and subjugation.”_ [SOURCE](https://iranwire.com/en/features/143258-iranian-officials-claim-israel-uses-jinns-and-talismans-in-war/) ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/3 "2025-11-24T16:40:24Z")
Seems like almost all secret services are involved in the occult. For instance, Manuel Noriega was known for occult procatices. He was a CIA asset and dictator in Panama who supplied the CIA with drugs. In the US, there were a couple of satanic cults and killings that had strange ties to intelligence as well. ---
**Author:** ![kid\_guttenberg](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/kid_guttenberg/32/53_2.png) [@kid\_guttenberg](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/kid_guttenberg)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/4 "2025-11-24T16:52:05Z")
![IMG_0495](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/9/9ddcefa0f7ebe53c3a3e7bbbf087d8fb83df651d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/5 "2025-11-24T18:22:09Z")
> [@Possible](#): > > Seems like almost all secret services are involved in the occult. It’s funny how we all know and say this and yet when it comes to Mossad/Shin Bet, nothing can be found. Maybe the sources are in Yiddish/Hebrew, I don’t know. If we had some sources, I think it would break the spell that Israel has on some people because as every Christian knows, divination is the gravest of sins. Lately, I’ve been thinking that considering Epstein was an Israeli intel asset, he might be the window we have (albeit a small one) into the occultic side of Israeli espionage given the temple on his island. ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/6 "2025-11-25T18:22:54Z")
I found this.. Apparently Uri Geller is an intelligence asset and had his supernatural abilities tested. That surprises me because I always thought there was some trick to these performances. @abd speaks Arabic, maybe ask him if there are more sources about it in Arabic? > “The circumstances in Iran were so mysterious and so bizarre that the Iranian government realized that this cannot happen with mechanical means or cyberattacks. They cannot happen with anything known to the human mind from a scientific point of view,” he explained. > > “They came to the conclusion that it was something supernatural, and they were basically right.” > > ### **Did the US government recruit human teleporters?** > > Geller claimed that in the 1970s, he and several others were tested by a team of scientists in the United Kingdom to see if they could dematerialize objects and rematerialize them elsewhere, an ability Geller referred to as teleportation. > > This information, he claimed, was then shared with the US National Security Agency (NSA), which in part led them to develop a potential plan to dematerialize an entire Russian city. > > While Geller is tight-lipped about the finer details of these events, it is true that the US had a secret project investigating the potential military applications of psychic powers. This would become known as the Stargate Project, and Geller himself was certified by the CIA as having presented his paranormal abilities in “a convincing and unambiguous manner” while being studied by them in the 1970s. Furthermore, the story is also backed up by [NSA documents declassified in 2011](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/NSA-RDP96X00790R000100030042-9.pdf). > > “The British scientists who tested Uri Geller complained of poltergeist phenomena,” the documents state. “Objects left the room, some appeared later, some never did. Scientists for many years have observed poltergeist phenomena in which objects ‘go through’ solid walls or disappear.” > > That same document outlined the possibility of weaponizing this capability by subjecting someone to the right emotional triggers – in this case trauma, as the document notes that grief seemed to be the most effective – to make things disappear. “ > > [Uri Geller: Israel attack on Iran helped by secret military psychics, AI | The Jerusalem Post](https://www.jpost.com/omg/article-861282) ---
**Author:** ![Abd](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/abd/32/2664_2.png) [@Abd](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Abd)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/7 "2025-11-25T22:49:20Z")
I wish I could speak Arabic… I can only read the Arabic of the Qur’an and understand a word or two. Sorry if I gave that impression. ---
**Author:** ![Abd](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/abd/32/2664_2.png) [@Abd](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Abd)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/8 "2025-11-26T03:04:59Z")
The Nexus reminds me of pyramids which is why I’m sharing this here: [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/7/71659c7b24a17ebeec4861e57d3cfa55aa33c15f.jpeg "Antichrist Dajjal 13") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k8Rfhx99-g) ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/9 "2025-11-27T14:21:04Z")
I won’t link to cia(dot)gov but for those interested, there’s a page on magic & espionage > **[The Kremlin’s Psychic Spies](https://espionagehistoryarchive.com/2016/01/09/the-kremlins-psychic-spies/)** > > Retired KGB Major General Boris Ratnikov has a story to tell – about the Soviet and Russian intelligence services’ use of psychic espionage in the Great Game. While Ratnikov’s story may sound… > **[Disinfowars 15 – False Flag Ops in WW2 | Spy Culture](https://www.spyculture.com/disinfowars-15-false-flag-ops-in-ww2/)** > > Continuing our exploration into the origins and development of false flag operations, this week we look at World War 2 and the British Double Cross System. Run by an Oxford academic, this system was set up to detect Nazi agents as they landed in... _Where that gets really curious is that in order to carry out this tomfoolery they enlisted the help of an illusionist, a stage magician, Jasper Maskelyne, who was working for the Army on these sorts of deception techniques. So that is a stone cold example of the security services just faking an event and controlling the media coverage in order to fool an enemy._ > **[MI5 and the Magicians | Spy Culture](https://www.spyculture.com/mi5-and-the-magicians/)** > > The story of the relationship between intelligence agencies and illusionists in the entertainment industry is a long one. It goes back at least to the beginning of the century, and the friendship between the escapologist Harry Houdini and the man who... [https://jaysanalysis.com/the-devil-rides-out-1968-a-cultic-crossroads-of-satanic-spies/](https://jaysanalysis.com/the-devil-rides-out-1968-a-cultic-crossroads-of-satanic-spies/) ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/10 "2025-11-27T14:26:36Z")
This one thing should be strong enough to discredit the idea that what we are seeing in the Middle East is all prophecy being fulfilled. Does God have to bribe Truman(a freemason btw) with suitcases of cash (2million) to recognize the state of Israel? Does God have to 9/11-falseflag and WMD-lie His way into fulfilling some covenantal promise to Abraham? Do God’s “chosen people” really have to employ the dark arts to fulfil prophecy? Now iam having to wonder what these people have done in all the wars Israel has engaged in since 1947. Anyway, we talk a lot about WW3 but never really think about this aspect of such a conflict. Iam 100% confident that Russia would win in a conventional war with NATO but iam not as confident that they possess an edge when it comes to psychological warfare. I very often wonder how the Russian public would respond to a psyop where CIA/DIA/ONI etc beamed Orthodox saints in the skies of Moscow, ordering them to storm the Kremlin to overthrow Putin or do something other thing. And before someone thinks that this all crazy and impossible, according to [this 1999 WaPo article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm), there are real units working on this kind of psyop. So the question rests with everyone on how tell apart what’s purely tech and what’s purely spiritual. Employing the dark arts on the battlefield certainly speaks to the limits of tech. > The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that [washingtonpost.com](http://washingtonpost.com) has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The “Holographic Projector” is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to “project information power from space … for special operations deception missions.” ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/11 "2025-11-28T23:59:45Z")
So why are all the secret services into the occult? I alwas thought it’s because gurus that promise to teach magic attract a lot of people, including powerful people. And then you spy on them. It is strange though that the intelligence agencies are very superstitious. ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/12 "2025-11-29T13:04:19Z")
On the one hand, we have secret societies like freemasons and o.t.o. that promise to teach their members black magic. Aleister Crowley, founder of o.t.o. was a spy for M15. This is where secret societies overlap with espionage. The elites of business, politics, entertainment are concentrated in secret societies that are built around occultism. Therefore, all the intelligence agencies recruit gurus who the elites believe have supernatural abilities. This is my theory why all the intelligence agencies are preoccupied with the occult- this is what the elites who matter are interested in. Most esoteric societies have origins in Helena Blavatsky’s esotericism. She was a spiritual guru who invented what later became known as ‘new age’ in the US. This woman was internationally connected to aristocrats and cultural elites and everybody who mattered at that time. She was also probably a spy. A lot of this stuff happened in Russia way before it came to the US. ---
**Author:** ![Chaldean](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/chaldean/32/106_2.png) [@Chaldean](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Chaldean)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/13 "2025-11-29T13:59:45Z")
There was just something that didn’t feel right to me. ![1000003502](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/a/a2ee7f30e784405bcca90506c445f675b8f9a883.jpeg) ![1000003504](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/4/42a9a6d1cfaaebc5b6467512b6f32de16fb04c23.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/14 "2025-11-29T14:57:05Z")
Ok yes, my bad. A.C. didnt found the o.t.o., he was just a recent promenent figure of the order. ---
**Author:** ![Chaldean](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/chaldean/32/106_2.png) [@Chaldean](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Chaldean)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/15 "2025-11-29T16:18:44Z")
👍 ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/16 "2025-11-29T16:41:01Z")
The other question I’ve been asking myself is why the business and political elites are interested in the occult. Probably because having a belief system of evil reinforces their decisions and because they’re paranoid and afraid of the masses and want to believe they have supernatural powers. I don’t think the 33 degree members have any magical powers. I think it’s a spiritual ponzi scheme that keeps the lower ranks in fear and the higher ups in control. Intelligence agencies also want to control people by spreading fear about supernatural weapons. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/17 "2025-12-03T13:09:07Z")
> [@Possible](#): > > So why are all the secret services into the occult? > > I alwas thought it’s because gurus that promise to teach magic attract a lot of people, including powerful people. And then you spy on them. > > It is strange though that the intelligence agencies are very superstitious. Espionage essentially involves getting ahead of your target and it is understandable that in the pre-electronic age, intel agencies would rely on divination as a source of the target’s plans but in this electronic age with ubiquitous data harvesting, the reliance on divination I think speaks to something else. I mean, if they can still perform rituals for every rocket launch, why wouldn’t they offer sacrifices to the god(s) of war or call them to aid? While I may not have evidence, I strongly believe they perform rituals for big events like 9/11 or Covid….especially Covid because the whole operation relied on coercing the will. Remember when people said that the pro-vaxxers acted as though they were spell-bound? > [@Possible](#): > > The other question I’ve been asking myself is why the business and political elites are interested in the occult. Probably because having a belief system of evil reinforces their decisions and because they’re paranoid and afraid of the masses and want to believe they have supernatural powers. I don’t think the 33 degree members have any magical powers. I think it’s a spiritual ponzi scheme that keeps the lower ranks in fear and the higher ups in control. Because you have to pay a price for success? > **[Leslie Wexner's Inner Demon](https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/06/reports/leslie-wexners-inner-demon/)** > > This excerpt from Whitney Webb's upcoming book "One Nation Under Blackmail" examines an obscure media profile of Leslie Wexner, Jeffrey Epstein's mentor, from the 1980s that contains disconcerting revelations about Wexner's personality and his inner... ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/18 "2025-12-03T13:11:49Z")
This is from the US Naval Institute (35mins) [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/e/e1891c514b375c2d346a8a931dc71177507a46a8.jpeg "Magic, War, and Intelligence: A Few Personalities, Tricks, and Ideas") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-vyr9bN-U4) ---
**Author:** ![Possible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@Possible](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Possible)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/19 "2025-12-05T17:42:45Z")
These are very good sources.. posting the aforementioned books below in case anyone is interested. I have not read them yet but I listened to an interview with the journalist who wrote them. Apparently, the CIA and organised crime started collaborating in WW2 to gain an edge over the enemy. According to the video, this is also the time when magicians started advising the CIA in techniques of deception. ![1000046289](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/6/6c6524049e31995d21d45653a57f4216c6f78c20.webp) ![1000046291](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/c/c4df1c00c59a64fcf4c75a35f1b40fabc28d1e55.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![UnderAlienControl](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/underaliencontrol/32/2565_2.png) [@UnderAlienControl](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/UnderAlienControl)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2026, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775/20 "2026-02-05T11:33:50Z")
> **[Putin turns his wrath on the Western Alliance’s Flirtation with Satanic Forces](https://michaelwalshwriter.com/2026/01/30/putin-turns-his-wrath-on-the-western-alliances-alliance-with-satanic-forces/)** > > Russia is engaged in a broader war, not just geopolitical, but spiritual and psychological. [Next page](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/the-occult-espionage-warfare-nexus/775.md?page=2)