# Reincarnation is an Irrefutable Fact **URL:** \ **Category:** Religions & Spirituality\ **Created:** [November 3, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579 "2025-11-03T21:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/21 "2025-11-20T06:39:22Z")
Revelation 20:4-6 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were executed for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither its image, neither had received [its] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection. 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be channels of God and of Christ ([Gal. 1:10](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/53galat.htm#1_10)), and shall reign with him a thousand years. ---
**Author:** ![llacey414](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ab097/32.png) [@llacey414](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/llacey414)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/22 "2025-11-21T14:42:54Z")
Reincarnation is not an irrefutable fact. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/23 "2025-11-21T20:03:15Z")
The most important words in all of Scripture: John 3:3-7 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God. 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-“Being” (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-“Being” - [Num. 23:19](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/04num.htm#23_19); [John 4:24](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/48john.htm#4_24)). 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh/human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-“Being”) - (a human+Being). 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye **must** be born again. Until one understands that they are **NOT** the human they are **temporarily** incarnating (and see in the mirror), but are, in fact, a spiritual-Being (Soul) that has been here many times before and experienced many human lifetimes, they cannot “see” the Kingdom of God, much less enter it. ---
**Author:** ![Kiel\_Kyght](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/kiel_kyght/32/10192_2.png) [@Kiel\_Kyght](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Kiel_Kyght)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/24 "2025-11-23T01:11:25Z")
Nice Scripture mangling there. Twist not the Scriptures, lest ye be like Satan. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/25 "2025-11-23T08:37:28Z")
Christ’s Second Coming, in a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim ([Gen. 49:10](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/01gen.htm#49_10); [22-24](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/01gen.htm#49_22)), with a **NEW NAME** ([Rev. 2:17](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/72rev.htm#2_17); [3:12](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/72rev.htm#3_12); [19:12](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/72rev.htm#19_12)): > **[The Scriptural Marks of Christ](https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/the-scriptural-marks-of-christ/)** > > There seems to be a huge disconnect between popular beliefs concerning Christ's Second Coming and what the Scriptures actually say about it. ---
**Author:** ![Karlysymon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/karlysymon/32/20825_2.png) [@Karlysymon](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Karlysymon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/26 "2025-11-23T18:00:33Z")
Ironically, you are actively promoting Satan’s favorite lie. That he first told in the garden; “You shall not die”. This isn’t any different from Universalists who believe that at the renewal of all things, every rebel (from Lucifer & his hordes right down to the last sinner at the end of this age) will be saved and that the Cross was pretty much just theatre. Curiously, at the tail end of last year & early this year, the idea of immortality made it’s rounds in the press and on podcasts. Big names connected to the Gateway Process/Psychic Spy program/Monroe Institute were pushed in our faces and I was left wondering why….likely to convince fence-sitters or the irreligious who would think “oh look, the gov’t ran a study hence immortality must be legit”. Ofcourse, project Bluebeam doesn’t just involve the appearance of a fake Christ but the apparitions of dead saints too. Further irony to all this nonsense is TPTB plan to make us “immortal” by transferring our consciousness to robots. Transcendence…we are told. ![dailymail.co](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/4/4147b0c33f6ab29c80209fd6b14f8bdf23d08373.png) ![dailymail.co.uk](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/5/55f46697b9b9796ccb8cd414add8c2a2a1ff7ba4.png) ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/27 "2025-11-23T19:16:59Z")
Whenever someone sees this world through **human** eyes instead of **spiritual** eyes, they invariably see everything upside down and backwards, exactly as Christ very plainly warned in [John 3:3-7](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/48john.htm#3_3), previously cited. In Genesis 2:16-17, God (the “I AM”) stated the following **TRUTH** : 2:16 And the “I AM” God **COMMANDED** the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good (Truth) and evil (lies), thou shalt **NOT** eat of it: **for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt SURELY die** (in confusion). When Eve ate of the tree of the knowledge of good (Truth) **and** evil (lies), and then conned Adam into doing the same, they both became **confused** , no longer able to differentiate between the Truth and the lies. They no longer saw themselves as spiritual-Beings **temporarily** clothed in a human animal body, but instead saw themselves as humans. All part of their satanic inverted vision, because they chose to listen to Satan instead of God. Genesis 3:1-7 3:1 Now the serpent (Lucifer/Satan/Iblis/the devil) was more subtle than any beast of the field which the “I AM” God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, **God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it (the tree of the knowledge of evil - the devil), lest ye die.** 3:4 And **the serpent (devil - liar) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:** 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. So God told Adam and Eve the **TRUTH** , that as long as they listened to and obeyed Him (God) **ONLY** that they would **NEVER** die, and Lucifer/Satan/Iblis (the serpent/dragon) **LIED** , by **falsely** claiming the exact opposite. And humans have been dying ever since in their confusion, exactly as God said, choosing to believe the satanic **LIE** that they are “only human after all”. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/28 "2025-11-23T19:24:52Z")
Excerpt below from: [The Way home or face The Fire](https://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net) - _ **No-one** in the history of the world has ever understood why Adam and Eve; after listening to and believing Satan (the Serpent, out of who’s mouth comes only poison/lies), rather than God; believed that they were naked and then hid themselves from God. So, I am going to explain it to you. It is really very simple, as you should see from my explanation._ _Whilst Adam and Eve listened **only** to God, they **KNEW** that they were really Spirit-Beings of Light and were locked inside of and clothed by the human bodies into which they were **incarnated**. Therefore they were not naked, because they were Spirit-Beings clothed with their human body. After they had listened to Satan’s first lie in the Garden, which was that they were **ONLY** human; a lie that Satan has been getting people to tell each other ever since, to keep **reinforcing** their belief in that lie, and using it as an excuse for everything they do wrong – “Well, we’re only human after-all”; they then became mortal and naked. The reason they were naked was, because, instead of being their Spirit-Being inside of and clothed with a human body, suddenly they were the human, outside of their Spirit-Being and clothed with nothing, and thus naked. “For as a man **thinks** in his heart, so is he” (_[Proverbs 23:7](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/18prov.htm#23_7)_). They had been told by God that, if they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Evil, they would die, and they were expelled from the Garden and had to work for a living, instead of having everything provided freely by God, and being immortal. Then God set a flaming sword at the East of Eden, to cut man asunder and prevent him from reentering the Garden, whilst ever he believed Satan’s **lie** that he was **ONLY** human._ _Christ; incarnated **inside** of Jesus, who is referred to as the **Second Adam** ; came to **reverse** The Fall, by teaching people that they are **NOT only** human, and that they **MUST** be born again as their Spirit-Being, and follow his example, or they would **NEVER** see or enter The Kingdom of God._ _The **MOST** important words in **ALL** of Scripture are spoken by Jesus, as recorded in the Gospel of John, chapter 3:1-13, where Jesus explained to Nicodemus that you **MUST** be born again as your Spirit-Being, and then make yourself as a little child, or **you** will **NOT** be able to **see** and **enter** The Kingdom of God. The Scriptures were **not** written for humans, but for Spirit-Beings. They make no sense to a human, because they do not have the spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear and understand the message in the Scriptures. **Only** an awakened and born-again Spirit-Being has the eyes and ears to be able to see and hear the message in the Scriptures._ _Eve fully believed Satan’s **lie** that she was **ONLY** human and swallowed the apple, but it stuck in Adam’s throat, as he did **not** fully believe it. That’s why men have an Adam’s Apple, and women do not._ _Most men, at some time/s in their life, ask: “What am I doing here?” Women do not, because they believe the lie that they are only human, and thus they know that they were born here and will die here. They also, because they give birth to children, believe that they, and not God, create life. Men, however, did not swallow all of the Apple/lie and thus ask the question – “What am I doing here?” It is the Spirit-Being, incarnated **within the man** , who is asking the question, **NOT** their human asking it, because it knows it was born here and will die here._ ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/29 "2025-11-24T08:55:27Z")
Satan’s **LIE** that by disobeying God “ye shall be **AS** gods”, **falsely** implying that Adam and Eve weren’t already gods/immortal spiritual-Beings/Souls, temporarily incarnated inside their male and female human bodies, respectively: Genesis 3:4-5 3:4 And **the serpent (devil - liar) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:** 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be **as** gods, knowing good and evil. God’s **TRUTH** , that we are all gods (the Children of God - immortal spiritual-Beings, whether in a human body or out of it - [2 Cor. 5:8-10](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/572cor.htm#5_8)): Psalm 82:6 I have said, **Ye [ARE] gods**; and all of you (your spirit-Beings) **[are] children of the Most High**. Christ, confirming this **TRUTH:** John 10:34-36 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your Law, I said, **Ye ARE gods**? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the Word of God came, and the Scripture **cannot** be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, **whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world** , Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? ---
**Author:** ![Kiel\_Kyght](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/kiel_kyght/32/10192_2.png) [@Kiel\_Kyght](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Kiel_Kyght)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/30 "2025-11-24T13:25:03Z")
Christ’s Second Coming arrives in a RESURRECTED body–the same one He wore before with significant upgrades. The same one all His followers will receive upon death. Enough of your reincarnate episodes…the Scriptures don’t permit them, and call into question His holy veracity. Knock it off. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/31 "2025-11-24T15:35:37Z")
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, however wrong they may be, at least for a little while longer. Those who cannot provide any Scripture to back-up their unscriptural opinions often hypocritically accuse those who do cite Scripture of doing what they are actually doing (promoting nonsense). If anyone at this point in time, after 6000 years and right before Judgment Day, is still duped into believing that we are allegedly not spiritual-Beings/Souls or that reincarnation isn’t taught throughout Scripture – particularly when dozens and dozens of relevant Scripture has been provided (including straight out of the mouth of Jesus) – then they are so far into Satan’s grip that there is no hope of them avoiding [The Fire](https://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net). ---
**Author:** ![Kiel\_Kyght](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/kiel_kyght/32/10192_2.png) [@Kiel\_Kyght](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Kiel_Kyght)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/32 "2025-11-24T18:34:53Z")
You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/33 "2025-11-24T19:26:19Z")
Christ, promising His Disciples He would see them again, right before the end of time, to explain to them plainly about Father (God). John 16:19-25 16:19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me? 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into Joy. 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. ([Rev. 12:1-5](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/72rev.htm#12_1)) 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: **but I WILL see you again** , and your heart shall rejoice, and your Joy no man taketh from you. 16:23 **And in that day ye shall ask me nothing**. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, He will give [it] you (if you are doing His Will). 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your Joy may be full. 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: **but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, BUT I SHALL SHOW YOU PLAINLY OF THE FATHER**. And here is the prophesied fulfillment of that promise in Christ’s Revelation to His Disciple John, to take place during the [end-times](https://jahtruth.net/signs), right **before** Judgement Day, **during Christ’s Second Coming** : Revelation 10:6-10 10:6 And sware by Him that liveth for ever and ever, Who created heaven, and the things that are therein, and the Earth, and the things that are therein, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that **there should be time no longer** : 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, **THE MYSTERY OF GOD SHOULD BE FINISHED** , as He hath declared to His servants the Prophets. 10:8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spoke unto me again, and said, Go [and] take **[the little book](https://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net)** which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the “sea” and upon the “earth”. 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take [it], and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth as sweet as honey. 10:10 And I took the little book (white stone [ch. 2:17](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/72rev.htm#2_17)) out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten (digested) it, my belly was bitter. How could Christ’s Disciples still be around 2000 years later, for Christ to explain to them “the mystery of God”, to show them plainly of Father? **REINCARNATION** And what is it that makes people mistakenly believe they know more about Christ today than Christ’s Disciples? **ARROGANCE/IGNORANCE** ---
**Author:** ![00kpop00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/8e7dd6/32.png) [@00kpop00](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/00kpop00)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/34 "2025-11-26T03:17:31Z")
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He will tell you the truth about reincarnation (you don’t have to reincarnate if you don’t want to, it’s optional). You can go wherever you want if you choose. Your soul is a fragment of the true God and you are more powerful than you think. THE REAL SOLUTION IS Do not go into the false white light of Reincarnation. Just don’t listen to Ialdabaoth or his archons, tell them, firmly, “Go away, I am sovereign and have my own free inviolable free will, you cannot tell me what to do.” On the astral plane, you can either reincarnate in a positive heavenly world if you wish like the Buddhic and other heavenly worlds, or you can manifest your own heavenly world. Or go into the dark peaceful void and rest there. I study occultism to try to gain an understanding of what the elites worship and why. You can think of yourself as a religious scholar studying alternative religions academically. Reincarnation is not just believed in Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and other eastern religions, but also in occult left hand path and right hand path religions and ‘pagan’ religions, specifically the right hand path religions Hermeticism and Gnostic Christianity. In Gnostic Christianity, this world is Ialdabaoth’s (Saturn’s) world and not the true God’s. Ialdabaoth (Yaldabaoth) is also Anu, the leader of the Sumerian-Akkadian-Mesopotamian-Babylonian Annunaki gods that created humanity as a laboratory experiment and as their prey, as their playthings and slaves. Ialdabaoth created this world because he is jealous of, and hates the true God. He hates his own mother Sophia, who is the aspect of the true God called Wisdom. This world is created as a massive planetary negative energy farm created by Ialdabaoth and his archons, where all negative emotions, pain, sadness, anger, anxiety, grief, death, suffering, murder, genocide, war, depression, r\*pe, everything horrible, everything negative, whether mild, extreme or in between, has its own energy that it gives off. Ialdabaoth and his archons, being cruel trickster deceptive entities, made Earth to harvest all negative energy as their energetic food source. So all negative energies and, yes your suffering energies, are food for Ialdabaoth and his archons. In these religions reincarnation is not mandatory and you can escape reincarnation. In my view, reincarnation is optional only if you listen to the archons or Ialdabaoth. They trick everyone into reincarnation on Earth. Whether you believe in reincarnation is up to you. Personally I believe we can escape reincarnation by not listening to Ialdabaoth (Saturn) and his archons that disguise themselves as Jesus, gods of various religions or other religious figures, whatever you believe in, and your deceased loved ones, spouses, friends, that lie to you, promising you all sorts of things so you reincarnate back on Earth. Again, just don’t listen to them, tell them firmly, go away, I am sovereign and have my own free inviolable free will. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/35 "2025-11-26T08:47:45Z")
There are thousands of different corporate fictional organized religions on this planet, divided into several categories, including “**[Christianity](https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/the-top-10-myths-that-dominate-christianity/)**”, “**[Islam](https://gibraltar-messenger.net/holy-koran/the-top-10-myths-that-dominate-islam/)**”, [Talmudic Judaism](https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/them-which-say-they-are-jews-but-are-not/), Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Taoism, etc. Each and every one of these religions, including **all** of their various sects, cults, denominations, etc., which number into the thousands, were created by Lucifer/Satan/Iblis, to deceive us, confuse us and lead us astray, to our destruction. The method that is employed by Satan in his organized religions is simple: take a bit of the Truth and mix into it a pack of lies, and then work on the one aspect of each of us that Satan has control over: the ego/self. That is why all of the books given to us by our extraterrestrial jailers – namely the Old Covenant/Testament, New Covenant/Testament and the Koran/Quran – specifically and repeatedly **CONDEMN** the priests, pastors, rabbis and imams, etc. and their satanic places of business, e.g. churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, etc. It is from these **CONDEMNED** , spiritually blind prisoners and their **CONDEMNED** practices of teaching their religious rites, rituals and superstitions, in their satanic places of business we’ve been repeatedly warned only heathens and hypocrites visit, that their adherents have “learned” (been programmed really) with their particular set of **mistaken** beliefs. This, of course, also includes the numerous volumes of books written by these self-professed experts, which frequently contradict the written instructions provided to us by our extraterrestrial prison guards (guardian angels), who actually do work for our Creator and His Anointed One (The Messiah/Christ, The Messenger/Word of God). The only logical (rational/sane) approach to learning the **TRUTH** about any subject is to telepathically ask our Creator for His Guidance while reading one of His Books, and then patiently await His Answers, while putting His Instructions into practice. **IF** this is done, and the instructions are actually put into action/practice, they will **PROVE THEMSELVES TO BE TRUE.** John 7:16-17 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me. 7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself. So no one has to take anything on “blind” faith; our Creator/God/heavenly Father (who is **NOT** a “trinity”) will literally show us the Truth of every matter, including our extraterrestrial origin and the reason why we were sent to this planet, and placed inside human animal bodies, so that we could be taught how to be good, like God, Prince Michael/Christ and the rest of the prison guards/guardian angels who watch over us. Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in Our image, **and teach him to be like Us** : and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/36 "2025-11-26T09:02:14Z")
At the death of the human body, the soul (spiritual-Being) that was placed inside of it is “liberated” from that body, and taken up to the Astral Plane, aka “Paradise”, where it receives its “life-review” of the human lifetime it has just experienced. ALL of the evil that soul committed during that previous human lifetime it just lived is then erased from its memory, before it is sent back to Earth with only the cumulative good that it has done in **ALL** of its previous human lifetimes. That way, each soul (spiritual Being of Light) is in the exact place that it has **EARNED** a right to be in eternal time. Matthew 16:27-28 16:27 For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man **according to his WORKS**. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste death (of the “Self”), till they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom. This is why everything that we think, say and do is being recorded, to see **IF** we have progressed spiritually during our experience in a particular human body (as a human+Being), or whether we have stayed in the same place or gone backwards. The problem with staying in the same place or going backwards is that we are all rapidly running out of time, as our 6000 year prison term is about to expire and Judgement Day arrives. Sura 18:49-51 18:49. And the Book (of Deeds) will be placed (before you); and thou wilt see the sinful in great terror because of what is (recorded) therein; they will say, “Ah! Woe to us! What a book this is! It leaves out nothing small or great, but takes account of everything!” They will find all that they did, placed before them: and not one will thy Lord treat with injustice. 18:50. Behold! We said to the (fallen) angels, “Submit to Adam (man)”: You submitted ([Luke 9:55](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/47luke.htm#9_55)), except Iblis (Lucifer). He was one of the Beings, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny ([John 8:35](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/48john.htm#8_35)) as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers! 18:51. I did not call them to witness the creation of the heavens and the Earth, nor (even) their own creation: nor is it for Me to take as helpers those that lead (men) astray! Revelation 20:12-15 20:12 And I saw the “Dead”, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the “Dead” were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works. 20:13 And the “sea” gave up the “Dead” which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the “Lake of Fire”. This is the second death. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the “Lake of Fire”. ---
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For those who may mistakenly believe in the religious superstition that we either go to heaven or hell at the death of the current human lifetime we’ve just experienced, please see for yourself that NO ONE except for the spiritual-Being Prince Michael/Christ – Who was sent from heaven – has ever gone back to heaven. John 3:13 And **no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven** , [even] the Son of Man which is **from** heaven. For this statement to be true, which of course it is, Elijah was a previous incarnation of Christ (the Truth). 2 kings 2:7-11 2:7 And fifty men of the sons of the prophets went, and stood to view afar off: and they two stood by Jordan. 2:8 And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped [it] together, and smote the waters, and they were divided here and there, so that they two went over on dry ground. 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion **of thy spirit** be upon me. 2:10 And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: [nevertheless], if thou see me [when I am] taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be [so]. 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, [there appeared] a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and **Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven**. It is noteworthy that this happened at the Jordan River, where the Israelites had previously passed over it to enter “the Promised Land”. The physical “Promised Land” was the land flowing with milk and honey, which was like heaven on Earth after coming out of slavery in Egypt. The spiritual “Promised Land” is of course heaven, which has been promised to all those who actively seek and do Father’s Will (let His will be done on Earth, as it is in heaven). There is, of course, also Enoch, who has been on the Astral Plane/Paradise (which is very clearly **NOT** heaven - see: [Luke 23:43](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/47luke.htm#23_43) and [John 20:17](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/48john.htm#20_17)), awaiting Judgment Day with the rest of us. **[Enoch](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/06enoch.htm)** (the first prophet of God), is proof that **IF** each of us would have lived a good human life (according to God, not our own, faulty self-assessment), then we too could have avoided multiple incarnations over the past 6000 years. And, with regard to hell (where Satan temporarily rules), it should be self-evident from Scripture that **THIS** (planet Earth) is hell. The flames have merely been reserved for the Last Day (Judgement Day), exactly as we’ve been warned for thousands of years. ---
**Author:** ![Ripcord](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/ripcord/32/11310_2.png) [@Ripcord](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Ripcord)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/38 "2025-11-30T21:19:45Z")
A couple of questions- 1- If somebody lives a perfect Christian life, what happens to them when they die, because if they’ve achieved perfection, there’s no need for them to be reincarnated for another try is there? 2- Do people such as Hitler, Stalin and Saddam etc get reincarnated? ---
**Author:** ![AFreeman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/afreeman/32/979_2.png) [@AFreeman](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/AFreeman)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/reincarnation-is-an-irrefutable-fact/579/39 "2025-11-30T22:34:04Z")
Is this Tidal/Flarepath/Clout? > [@Ripcord](#): > > A couple of questions- > > 1- If somebody lives a perfect Christian life, There’s no such thing is there? Romans 3:23 For **ALL** have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; However, if you are looking for a relatively good example, there’s Enoch ([Gen. 5:23-24](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/01gen.htm#5_23)), who lived a life that was pleasing to God and was “translated” ([Heb. 11:5](https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/65heb.htm#11_5)), i.e. he is awaiting Judgement Day in “paradise” (the Astral Plane). > [@Ripcord](#): > > what happens to them when they die, because if they’ve achieved perfection, there’s no need for them to be reincarnated for another try is there? IF someone became enough like Jesus to go home, to heaven, then there would be no reason for them to be sent back to Earth. Unfortunately for all of us here, that hasn’t ever happened. Only Christ (the Spiritual-Being inside of Jesus), Who came from heaven, has ascended to heaven. John 3:13 And **no man hath ascended up to heaven** , but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of Man which is from heaven. > [@Ripcord](#): > > 2- Do people such as Hitler, Stalin and Saddam etc get reincarnated? Of course. As did the all of the spiritual-Beings/Souls inside of every body that drowned in the flood during the times of Noah, and those Souls inside of the Egyptians that were drowned in the Red Sea after Moses and the Israelites crossed, and the Souls of every one of us still here. And each of us are rewarded for the good we’ve done in all of our previous lifetimes, and punished for the evil, which is why no one gets away with anything (perfect karma). Galatians 6:7 **Be NOT deceived** ; God is **NOT** mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, **THAT shall he also reap**. ---
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