# Ariana Grande **URL:** \ **Category:** Entertainment Industry\ **Created:** [November 13, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677 "2025-11-13T17:04:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RedQueen](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/redqueen/32/107_2.png) [@RedQueen](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/RedQueen)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/22 "2025-11-16T20:20:01Z")
that beeber interview is heartbreaking,everytime i See it,it makes me angry all over again We can only imagine and theorize what happened to these Children,they had/have to live the reality of it ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/alex/32/395_2.png) [@Alex](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/23 "2025-11-16T20:21:45Z")
In the interview he talks about Eilish and how he is so afraid that the industry people will do to her what they’ve done to him. He says he wants to help her and that he is always just one phone call away. ---
**Author:** ![Elimin82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a698b9/32.png) [@Elimin82](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Elimin82)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/24 "2025-11-20T19:09:34Z")
[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/e/e37f51cff2b3bcbe43e70b954e688a7e7246362d.jpeg "The Dark Psychology of Ariana Grande | Fragmented Identity and Nickelodeon Trauma") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6j2Y3RTJ8s) ---
**Author:** ![Ambidex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/ambidex/32/263_2.png) [@Ambidex](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Ambidex)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/25 "2025-11-20T20:13:34Z")
Something weird is always going on in these movie sets… Actors dying early, becoming ill or catching curses by participation and agreement. I think of Rosemary’s Baby, The Exorcist, The Conjuring. They always talk about method acting where you have to fully accept and believe you’re the character you’re playing to make the performance convincing. But that itself becomes risky when it blurs the line of true acceptance and genuine internalization to whatever lines you are saying on the big screen and promoting it to the masses. ---
**Author:** ![Ambidex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/ambidex/32/263_2.png) [@Ambidex](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Ambidex)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/26 "2025-11-20T20:34:39Z")
@Ilya This seems like a reference to her music video “We Can’t Be Friends”, where the mv is inspired by the movie, “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”. She chooses to go to this clinic to remove memories of her past partner so her brain becomes rewired. But it would not be surprising if it was a reference to something MK ultra related that may have happened to her in real life as well. ![Screenshot 2025-11-20 152837](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/c/c063659d7a6d2efe819eb3f45f783b3a51816a59.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/ilya/32/340_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/27 "2025-11-21T00:07:21Z")
Great catch! It makes more sense now, but still a bit weird when artists today touch these topics. The clinic she refers to in the music video [Brighter Days Clinic](https://thebrighterdaysclinic.com/) also sounds very MK-ultra like with this description on their page: > _Transforming minds through cognitive recalibration and subconscious reprogramming._ ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/ilya/32/340_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/28 "2025-11-21T00:18:39Z")
Sometimes actors even talk about spirituality when touching the topic of acting. For example: > _As an actor you are more like a medium. …. You just become a garment that something else puts on. A lot of people sit up there and do impersonations of other folks instead of allowing that spirit._ [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/0/080f65758624dd2c59eb68221ec8135f2705d028.jpeg "Terrence Howard as Cadillac Richie explains his acting process #possession #mediumofthelight") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxxWnVuZFIA) Another example: > [0:30] _Cause it’s very spiritual what we do as actors. …. You are allowing this character to use your body as a vessel._ [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/6/62bc6848cea2c5b0e2b9a54b1f8861b00c0a5615.jpeg "Taraji P. Henson Looked out for Fantasia On Set of ‘The Color Purple’") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6IzxYOe9L4) It can get even deeper: > _Two voices came out of you …. You’re channeling._ [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/2X/b/b1b1a303f435abe01dc8b16aef8b2b18568a99d2.jpeg "Shirley MacLaine Says Jack Nicholson Is "Channeling"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDkL1s2IHSQ&t=82s) * * * If you want several more examples you can find them in [this thread](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/they-sold-their-souls/507#p-2554-channeling-spirits-possession-alter-egos-18). ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/alex/32/395_2.png) [@Alex](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/29 "2025-11-24T14:10:34Z")
In the past, when I watched celebrity interviews, I used to think they just say things like that to sound cool or interesting. I never took any of it seriously because I thought they were just making things up, yapping. I guess I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/alex/32/395_2.png) [@Alex](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/30 "2025-11-24T14:12:59Z")
Method acting does sound like something where the people using it think it’s innocent because supposedly it’s all about making a good movie, but in reality it is a dangerous spiritual exercise. ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/alex/32/395_2.png) [@Alex](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/31 "2025-11-24T16:21:59Z")
Thanks for sharing! It’s interesting how this blogger talks about personality fragmentation a lot, but she doesn’t mention mk ultra. Instead she claims such fragmentation is a natural outcome of childhood trauma (divorced parents) and being a child celebrity. Maybe she’s right. But she is describing everything that is usually attributed to mk ultra programming (like how Grande is a chameleon switching between different personalities) without making this connection. I’m not sure what to make of that. She also talks about how Ariana’s public persona is that of a big-eyed needy child. The blogger claims this is a consequence of child trauma, but I doubt if she’s right about that. This public personas are shaped carefully by a team of professionals who are focused more on what they can make the most money out of. Grande has no personal agency over herself, she’s not the one making these choices. On the other hand, maybe they saw these qualities in Grande (innocence, neediness) and took advantage of them. ---
**Author:** ![Netty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/netty/32/12900_2.png) [@Netty](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Netty)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/32 "2025-11-24T17:23:44Z")
I believe Ariana is under MK ultra Monarch programming, and has several alters. Sex-beta programming when she used to wear her kitty ears. I also believe that Cynthia Arivo (her co-star) is her handler. ---
**Author:** ![Elimin82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a698b9/32.png) [@Elimin82](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Elimin82)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/33 "2025-11-25T14:57:18Z")
[https://x.com/Katsbigopinion2/status/1993060017290068217?s=20](https://x.com/Katsbigopinion2/status/1993060017290068217?s=20) ---
**Author:** ![RedQueen](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/user_avatar/forums.vigilantcitizen.com/redqueen/32/107_2.png) [@RedQueen](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/RedQueen)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/34 "2025-11-25T17:32:06Z")
Yes 100% i Believe she is ---
**Author:** ![llacey414](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ab097/32.png) [@llacey414](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/llacey414)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/35 "2025-11-26T03:37:42Z")
Cynthia Arivo is creepy and strange and I can see how she could be Ariana’s handler. Their relationship is bizarre and not normal AT ALL. Could Ariana have had a different handler before Cynthia? Or maybe she didn’t need one yet? Not sure how that works. ---
**Author:** ![llacey414](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ab097/32.png) [@llacey414](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/llacey414)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/36 "2025-11-26T03:41:51Z")
I actually sometimes wonder if Cynthia is a man. ---
**Author:** ![Elimin82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a698b9/32.png) [@Elimin82](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Elimin82)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/37 "2025-11-26T09:37:18Z")
There’s rumours about Ariana being a man too ---
**Author:** ![unveilingthesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@unveilingthesigns](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/unveilingthesigns)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/38 "2026-06-07T19:21:04Z")
![Hate_That_I_Made_You_Love_Me_cover](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/3X/e/5/e5eb453b1f0748380827c767a2963aabc73ecbae.webp) Ariana for her upcoming album. ---
**Author:** ![unveilingthesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@unveilingthesigns](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/unveilingthesigns)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/39 "2026-06-07T19:22:10Z")
![1780489165305_instaPV](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/3X/b/7/b7bb82c033d9e64db1e52b43c00f074565ea54be.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Elimin82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a698b9/32.png) [@Elimin82](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/Elimin82)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/40 "2026-06-09T07:29:58Z")
[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/3X/f/6/f6128f2cb99e2c858fc8eb86d946d9e6434071cd.jpeg "ARIANA GRANDE'S TOUR IS A DISASTER: BIZARRE STAGE BEHAVIOR, EXHAUSTION AND CONCERNED FANS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgYZMT9EAAQ) ---
**Author:** ![unveilingthesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@unveilingthesigns](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/u/unveilingthesigns)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677/41 "2026-06-09T17:39:09Z")
Plus alien agenda. ![ariana-grande-performing-a-little-stunt-during-supernatural](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/3X/b/d/bd6128407e1c875aa7114a72561f1f405ec7b68d.webp) ![eternal-sunshine-tour-discussion-v0-sf6jrv79ns5h1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex033/uploads/vigilantcitizen/original/3X/d/3/d35f352ed65fd0d4f85f0cdc4fb06a4acb487c1a.webp) [Previous page](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.vigilantcitizen.com/t/ariana-grande/677.md?page=3)